PLEASE stick to the issue!!!
Recently you claimed that WV and Margins are identical, so my last iteration here quoted YOUR ASSERTION that they are different, as I have been claiming.
As to whether counting equality matters under Margins, we seem agreed that it does not.
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:00:04 +0200 (CEST) Kevin Venzke wrote:
Dave,
--- Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit :
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:46:48 +0200 (CEST) Kevin Venzke continued insisting that WV is the same as Margins except that:
Margins counts explicit and implied equality,
While WV does not.
So I quote his Jan post below, which agrees with my memory on this detail:
WV simply uses winners' vote counts in resolving cycles.
Margins requires an extra subtraction step to determine margin between winner's vote count and loser's vote count.
Either works. The subtraction step gives the same results as though you had counted half-votes.
What you imply is not quite true:
Since Margins is in the business OF MARGINS, it cares not whether half-votes were counted, since they do not affect this detail.
BUT what is significant is that counting half-votes DOES affect the numbers used by WV, where they therefore make a difference.
I argue that explicit equal ranking should be included in WV to make these counts comparable as related to voters' intent.
I argue that counting equal ranking has no value in margins since it would not affect the margins, BUT would do the same counting as for WV for consistency.
Counting half-votes: Doesn't affect the margins Counting no votes: Doesn't affect the margins
So you DO realize that your count rule, with a Margins "interpretation of the counts," gives exactly the same winners as Margins?
What you say about Margins is true - BUT talking about this side issue distracts from agreeing or disagreeing as to whether there is a difference between WV and Margins.
Kevin Venzke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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