> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ted Stern > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [EM] Re: Condorcet baseball rankings > > On 29 Oct 2004 at 15:40 PDT, Paul Kislanko wrote: > > You can't substitute "games-won" for "votes". They are two > different things. > > > > I take things seriously, including mathematical logic. > > [Insert old joke about balloonist in clouds and mathematician > on the ground] > > > > > If you were "implying that Condorcet completion methods > such as RP or > > Beatpath could be used to evaluate the round-robin winner > when no team is > > undefeated by any other" you are mistaking both sports > contests and voting > > methods. > > > > It is much more likely that the hundreds of rating systems > developed for > > comparing sports teams who haven't played head-to-head > would be applicable > > to a voting system than it is for a voting system to be > applicable to > > sorting out who's the best team in a sporting event. > > > The Boston Red Sox may have won, in part, because they have > followed the > "Moneyball" credo seriously for several years in order to put > together a more > powerful team on their budget than conventional baseball > statistics would have > predicted. So I think my original question isn't *too* far off topic.
OK, connect "moneyball" to voting systems.... > > Otherwise, you can ignore simply ignore this thread if you > think it too > frivolous ;-). > > If you're willing to engage in a less serious but > constructive discussion, > then help me out here: I don't think that total games won is > the optimal > criterion for the best team in a division. What would be a > better measure? > And why doesn't MLB use it? I guess you don't think "total votes in favor of" means anything, either. If as you suggested, MLB has "nearly" a round-robin schedule (it's not even close, but that was your assertion not mine) and you say total wins in a RR schedule is not optimal, we must necessarily conclude that you believe a Condorcet winner is not optimal. I don't disagree, but I'd like to see your argument that a CW is not optimal. > > Ted > -- > Send real replies to > ted stern at u dot washington dot edu > > Frango ut patefaciam -- I break that I may reveal > > ---- > Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em > for list info > ---- Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
