Russ, you wrote: >I can explain RAV/DMC tally rule in nearly complete detail in one >sentence: "eliminate the least-approved candidate until a CW is found." >The only thing left is how to deal with numerical ties. Your explanation >is a high-level explanation that "glosses over" the details, yet it is >still significantly more verbose than my explanation. >I'll give you an "A" for effort and creativity, but as I said before, I >think your AWP method is just too complicated for public acceptance. I >suggest that you try to explain AWP to several people "off the street." >See how long it takes to get them to the point where they can explain it >back accurately and in enough detail to implement it. I think you will >be disappointed in most cases.
I'll agree that RAV has a significantly shorter definition than AWP. On the other hand, AWP has greater resistance to strategy. The relative importance of these two factors should be decided on a case-by-case basis, that is, in a particular electorate considering a change to a new voting system. Thus, rather than saying that one method or the other is useless, I suggest that we should direct our discussion towards clarifying the relative pros and cons of the different systems. Relevant questions are grouped into at least two categories, i.e. strategy/technical merit and explainability: Strategy/technical merit... Is AWP more strategy-resistant than RAV/DMC? How strategically vulnerable is RAV/DMC? How strategically vulnerable is AWP? What is the likelihood that strategic vulnerability in RAV/DMC will lead to abuse, or push voters into making extensive use of compromising counterstrategy? When one takes its strategic vulnerabilities, which systems is RAV/DMC technically preferable to? (E.g. plurality? runoff? IRV? CWO-IRV? margins? WV?) Likewise, which systems is AWP technically preferable to? (By "technically preferable", I mean preferable from a standpoint that is not sensitive to factors like explainability.) Explainability... Is RAV/DMC easier to explain than AWP? What is the simplest way to explain RAV/DMC? What is the simplest way to explain AWP? In what kinds of electorates might RAV/DMC be able to gain public acceptance? In what kinds of electorates might AWP be able to gain public acceptance? I suggest that we should address these separate question groups in separate messages and threads. my best, James ---- Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info