MIKE OSSIPOFF nkklrp-at-hotmail.com |EMlist| wrote:

"Approval would pass CC if CC were defined votes-only, as you
yourself said."

Nonsense. Any reasonable definition of the Condorcet Criterion either assumes that ranking is allowed or says so explicitly. CC applies to ordinal methods only. Duh!

Even with that assumption, a preference-style CC is *not* equivalent to the standard ("votes-only") CC *unless* you stipulate that the actual votes *are* the voter's true preferences. But if you do that, you might as well just use the "votes-only" definition of CC.

This is really just common sense, folks, but some people like to make things more complicated than necessary. If your car is stolen, and the police ask "What color is your car?," you could say, "The color of my car is my favorite color, and my favorite color is blue." But if you're a normal person you'll probably just say, "blue."

--Russ
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