Russ,
I had suggested this as a maybe-interesting criterion which applies to hybrid rankings/approval methods:


"Disapproval Later-no-Harm: Ranking a disapproved candidate must never harm an approved candidate."

You responded (Sun.May8):

Unfortunately, I don't think that can be guaranteed without violating the Condorcet Criterion (as Ted points out below). Any time you rank another candidate, you take a chance of making that candidate the CW and taking the win away from one of your higher-ranked candidates -- no matter how far down you rank the new candidate. Anyone who insists on LNH must give up on CC, I think (Please correct me if I am wrong about that).

You are not wrong regarding the usual "standard" version of the CC, Condorcet(Net).
But Later-no-Harm *is* compatible with "Condorcet(Gross)", which says that a candidate
that is supported by more than half the voters in pairwise comparisons with all the other
candidates must win.
If none of the voters truncate (or equal rank), then the Condorcet(Gross) winner will be the
same as the Condorcet(Net) winner; and if the method meets LNHarm then the voters will
have no incentive to truncate!
Kevin Venzke was making this point a while ago in his advocacy of MinMax(Pairwise Opposition),
aka Woodall's "Minimum Doubly-Augmented Gross Score", and of "Condorcet (doubly-augmented gross)
top tier" (CDTT) methods.
The CDTT methods can fail LNHarm when there are more than three candidates in a majority-strength
top cycle, but unlike MMPO they meet (mutual)Majority and (votes-only) Minimal Defense.


http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2005-March/014942.html

Probably my favourite plain rankings method (certainly one of my top 3) is CDTT,IRV.

I am of the view that it is possible and desirable to have the situation where the big majority of voters
are innocent of strategy and/or not interested in strategy, and I strongly believe that the "official assumption"
should be that there is no strategy problem and no problem in determining the will of the voters from their votes.
So I'm completely against relying on any random process like random ballot (except as a last resort when
candidates are tied according to all the reasonable deterministic processes), or on explicit strategy devices
(like ATLO). If the voting method has a big role for Random Ballot, the implied official assumption
is "No voting method is immune to strategy, and we know that you voters can't be trusted!".


CDTT,IRV is the only CDTT method without a clone problem that meets the "Weak Burial Resistance"
criterion.
"If x is the CW (and wins), and on more than 1/3 of the ballots ranked above y and z; and afterwards on
some of the ballots that rank y above x and x not below z, z's ranking relative to x is raised while
keeping y ranked above them both, then if there is a new winner it cannot be y."


http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2005-April/015667.html

That criterion is incompatible with Mono-raise, but I consider the exchange a huge bargain.
(Especially in public debate versus FPP and plain IRV) I don't see how we can wear this James G-A
Burying example:
46: A>B
44: B>C (sincere is B>A)
05: C>A
05: C>B
A is the sincere CW.
First-preference supporters of a sincere CW with more than 40% of the FPs simply shouldn't have to
bother with "defensive strategy"!


Chris  Benham





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