At 12:53 PM 6/8/2005, Juho Laatu wrote:
They might also trust a uniform voting method science community telling them that some certain method is the best one. This is however maybe the biggest problem of the Condorcet community - no agreement on which method is the best.

The problem, of course, is rooted in the absence of any consensus on what "best" means. This absence of consensus seems to exist with respect to the most elementary aspects of election outcome.

Which is better, a winner supported by half the voters plus one, or a winner with the largest approval rating? Does it matter how large? If there is only a plurality first-choice winner, is it better to find some way to declare a winner based on additional information (using IRV, allowing overvotes, or using more complex systems), or to run an actual runoff election, which will likely involve a re-examination of some election issues?

What is needed, I'd say, is consensus, not regarding the "best method," but simply upon the characteristics and likely -- or preferably demonstrated -- outcomes of the application of each method. Choosing election methods then becomes a deliberative process based on solid information and broadly accepted opinion.

Hmmm.... sounds like a job for a wiki!

(I have elsewhere noted that discussion systems, while they can certainly help develop a consensus, don't actually function to completion in this regard unless they include a mechanism for measuring true consensus. One of the fundamental problems with developing consensus in a mailing list with no adjunct polling process that includes all interested (or however else membership is defined) is that the appearance of consensus in that environment can be quite false. Sometimes this happens because the loudest voices ultimately drown out the rest. One would think mailing lists not so vulnerable to this, but extended flame wars, as we've seen on this list, can drive away a certain segment of people who would otherwise participate. Even very wordy sober discourse can drive away some, as list traffic becomes too much. Mea culpa. Enter our superhero, Delegable Proxy....)


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