Inistead of "Margins Random Ranking Example", I should have said "Margins insincere extension example". Of course in example 4, the A voters extend their ranking in a way that isn't random. And of course, especially in a public election, if the extension is genuinely random, it will cancel itself, as I said, and it won't affect the Condorcet winner's win. But it can when it's done lopsidedly, as in example 4, and, as the example shows, it's a problem in Margins too. A bigger problem, because it succeeds. Votes-Against's truncation defense against order-reversal (or insincere extension) is a general property of that method. Mike
