Before describing the example, I should say that it's true that, as Blake said, with Votes-Against, and 3 candidates, A,B, & C, and if you're an A voter, but indifferent between B & C, then you can't possibly lose by insincerely ordering B & C. You can only gain by doing it. With Margins, you could lose or gain. You're just as likely to make someone BeatsAll winner as to prevent one. If there's a circular tie, you're increasing one of one candidate's marginss or decreasing one of the other candidate's margins, but you don't know which defeats the other. By assumption nothing is known about the other voters. But so what? As I said, you don't have a serious dilemma, if you have incentive to order 2 candidates between whom you're indifferent. It's a problem for others if it has the effect of order-reversal, but it can do that with either method, Margins or Votes-Against. I'd better post this & write again, before the system screws up again. Mike Ossipoff
