It's true that Condorcet's method, including Cloneproof SSD, allows voters to thwart offensive order-reversal via defensive truncation. But that _isn't_ true of Ranked Pairs(margins), or any margins method. When Mr. Condorcet made his proposals, he specified that defeats be measured by defeat-support. And that's the only defeat measure that confers compliance with the defensive strategy criteria. Ranked-Pairs(defeat-support) is something that Condorcet proposed, and it meets all 4 of the majority defensive strategy criteria, as does Cloneproof SSD. In my previous message, I said that I wouldn't object if someone else wants to do the Cloneproof SSD & Ranked Pairs(margins) counts, before I post my results late tomorrow or tomorrow night (California time). I should add that BeatpathWinner and Cloneproof SSD always give the same outcome, and so if someone wanted to do the count, they could use BeatpathWinner instead of Cloneproof SSD for the implementation of the Cloneproof SSD count. Mike Ossipoff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
