My thoughts as well. This is probably one of the better systems in current use in single-seat government elections, although I would prefer to simplify it into plain approval voting rather than combine it with Condorcet.
Bart Forest Simmons wrote: > > If your interpretation of the Slovenia election law is correct, so that > truncations receive zero, and the ranked choices receive the same points > that they would have received on a ballot without truncations, then > Slovenia's version of Borda is a kind of hybrid of Borda and Approval, > hence better than standard Borda. > > Consider, for example, a single winner election with twenty candidates, of > which a typical voter might approve four. If that typical voter ranked > only those approved four, they would receive 20, 19, 18, and 17 points, > respectively (from that voter's ballot), while the other candidates would > receive zero. > > That's not so different from giving each of the four approved candidates > 20 points (and zero for the rest) which would be equivalent to Approval. > > The greater the number of candidates, the closer this method is to > Approval. > > Suppose that we used Slovania's version of Borda in Borda seeded single > elimination or in Borda completed Condorcet (Black). It seems to me that > when the number of candidates is moderately large, then there would be > very little incentive to rank insincerely. > > Forest > > On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Jurij Toplak wrote: > > > There was a discussion about Borda count here for the last few weeks. I > > wander if anybody on the list actualy knows which countries use Borda system > > in their national elections? I know that my country, Slovenia, uses it. > > > > In Slovenian parliamentary elections two of the 90 members are elected in > > single-member districts according to Borda system (the other 88 members are > > elected with Droop and D'Hondt quota system). Law states that "A voter shall > > vote by indicating his preferential order of candidates in front of the > > names of the candidates, starting with number 1." (National Assembly > > Election Act, Art. 74). "Points shall be assigned to candidates according to > > orders of preference. For each first place the candidate shall receive as > > many points as there were candidates on the ballot paper, and for each > > successive place a point less. The points of each candidate shall be > > totaled."(Art. 95). > > > > Therefore, if a candidate on a 5-candidate ballot only votes for one > > candidate, this candidate will receive 5 points and the others zero. This is > > opposite to what Saari and the others here on the list are proposing. > > However, there is no basis in the law to give to this candidate only one > > point or to give the others "average" of 2.5 points. Law clearly sais "For > > the first place the candidate shall receive as many points as there were > > candidates on the ballot paper." > > It is also impossible to call this ballot null since the law sais that "A > > ballot paper shall be valid if it is clear which candidate he voted for." > > (art. 76). > > > > These districts are quite small - one has 2000 and the other 8000 voters. > > This means that if a group of few hundred voters deliberately voted for only > > one candidate this would make a big difference in result. > > > > However, the law stating "for each successive place a point less" could also > > be interpreted that the chosen candidate on a 5-candidate ballot would get 5 > > points and the others 4 points. But it is not interpreted this way I guess. > > > > Does anybody know how do other countries that use Borda treat such ballots? > > > > The election act of Slovenia is available at > > http://www.sigov.si/elections/zvdz.html > > > > Happy new year to everybody, > > > > Jurij > > > > > > > >
