I can't have anything to do with Richard Mellon Scaife, because I believe he is trying to destroy the country.
Richard Mellon Scaife (and his cohorts, Olin/Bradley/Coors/Koch) have, for all intents and purposes, co-opted national Libertarianism through the Cato Institute. Maybe their are drunkard, murderous billionaires behind the Greens and Democrats, I just haven't heard of them. Ted Kennedy probably sprang to mind, but that's a very stupid comparison, to the best of my knowledge. If any of the "contributions" I make to election-methods-list get used to spring Mr. Hager to victory in Indiana, more power to him. I can't endorse him, nor contribute financially. Am I going to fight him? I don't even live in Indiana. I'm not even sure that, if elected, Mr. Hager COULD move Indiana to AV or anything better that FPTP. I'm not sure the State Legislature will want to pay for even the education required to "advance" the voters with the method. In my state, my Rep and Senator will hear about Condorcet and AV from me. I will help, if I can, write pro-Condorcet and AV (and even IRV) promotional material. Again, I don't even live in Indiana. -----Original Message----- From: MIKE OSSIPOFF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EM] Josh: Set aside political differences Josh-- Do you think it would make sense for each small party and each political persuasion to have its own electoral reform movement, all working unco-operatively in parallel? Every electoral reform advocate that I've known or heard of understands that electoral reformers will have to work together, and put aside their party differences. Whom you would or wouldn't endorse is your business. But, for what our endorsement is worth, EM's Approval project should endorse, and try to raise contributions for, Hager. Look at it this way, Josh: Let's get a better voting system, and then you can duke it out with the Libertarians in the election campaigns. First better electoral democracy, and then let the people decide which party they like. But right now, doing what we can for a better voting system is a lot more important than interparty bickering. Josh said: Re: "breaking the duopoly" Actually, one could argue that Approval will ENTRENCH the duopoly, just let the 10% who want to mention a third party do so. In this sense of Approval Voting, you might see Democrats getting a sense of their total Green vs. Labor support, and Republicans getting an idea whether it's Libertarians or Christians who support them. I reply: It isn't entirely clear how you're saying Approval entrenches the monopoly-that-calls-itself-a-duopoly. By making it possible, for the 1st time, for everyone to feel able to vote for their favorite, so that the election results accurately reflect support for parties & candidates? Or by making it take twice as many mistaken compromisers to give away an election, as compared with Plurality or IRV? Mike Ossipoff [as an aside, how does Approval handle multiple endorsements? Say, I'm Democratic Line in New York county and Green Line in upstate. It's trivial?] Do not say that there is no reason to go to Approval UNLESS you support third parties, please :) re: "hyper-focused report on a specific reform has a much better chance of garnering press attention." As long as it doesn't get "hyper-technical," sure. <glances in Ossipoff's direction> Give the reporter some URLs at least, so they can look into things further if it interests them, for all angles, not just history. RE: "HAGER in 2002" _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
