Thank you Olli. That's much more interesting than I would have guessed. The docs aren't online anymore, btw.
Go Finland! We Americans can be downright primitive sometimes. :( -----Original Message----- From: Olli Salmi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EM] Parliamentarianism Outside the English-speaking countries all the votes are taken at the end of the debate, but they are taken consecutively. Some time ago (2nd Jan) I posted about the French and the Finnish method. The French method doesn't necessarily produce a winner even if a Condorcet winner exists. My understanding is that the Finnish method finds one if one exists. I'd like to get this confirmed and also how to detect a cycle. In Sweden and Switzerland there are further methods. In this country the result of the vote in Parliament is photographed from the display of the voting machine. It might be more difficult to understand how your representative has voted if IRV were used. It might reduce strategic voting because the MPs wouldn't know the result of the previous vote, but then again I've read that strategic voting can force the selection of the best choice. In England universities use Single Transferable Vote/IRV extensively, perhaps exclusively. At Cambridge it is also used when the Regent House (some 3,000 persons) is voting on the so called graces, internal regulations, if amendments have been offered. Cambridge also have an extensive site on a computerized STV voting system called Juliet, coded in Java. Here's the programmer's manual, if it's still online: http://thor.cam.ac.uk/group/CST1b/juliet/swc23/ProgDoc.htm. Olli Salmi At 22:52 +0300 12.4.2002, Narins, Josh wrote: > Has anyone written on the relation between multi-option voting >systems and parliamentary procedure? > > I was thinking this morning... Why have votes on amendments at all? >All amendments and the bill itself could be voted on simultaneously. In that >context, you can wager your lunch they would want Approval or Condorcet, not >IRV. :) > > Anyone know anything about this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. ---- For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em
