Yes, because IRV has been pushed everywhere as the rank-count, there's little hope of getting any other rank-count accepted, except maybe in a city where the IRV promoters haven't been at work.
That's why Approval is a better public proposal. It can be pointed out that IRV is only one of many rank-counts, and one of the worst; and that Approval is a simple, obvious improvement on Plurality, and that there's only one way to count Approval votes: Add them up. Paul Hager's Approval discussion makes the essential points about the ease of changing from Plurality to Approval. And when IRV's violations of Monotonicity and Participation are described, and the IRV majority myth debunked, it seems to me that IRV won't have a chance. Of course it isn't necessary to name those critera. It's only necessary to tell of the absurd things that IRV will do. IRV can't win where it's opposed with information about its problems. It won in SF only because no one was sharing information about it there. So IRV should be easy to defeat, and, instead of getting into the debate of one rank-count vs another, Approval is the proposal that should be offered as a replacement for IRV. Mike Ossipoff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ---- For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em
