Kevin Venzke wrote:

Hi,

--- Augustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
I am very angry when I think about how referendums are conducted in Taiwan.
a- stupid 50% rule.
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For the result of a referendum to be valid, at least 50% of the *registered voters* must participate. I.e. if at least 50% of the registered couch potatoes stay at home, the referendum will fail even if the vote expressed show 90% + support to the referendum item.

Thus, the surest way to kill a referendum is to stay at home.
Also, all those registered voters who genuinely don't care about the referendum one way of the other (e.g. the disinterested couch potato group of people), are all automaticall counted in the NO camp, whatever the question asked. !!!

How much more undemocratic can that be??

The rule that a majority of voters must vote is unfortunate because it
means that by showing up to vote "No" you can cause the proposal to
succeed.

You could avoid that problem by having a rule that says for a referendum to pass the number of cast ballots in favour of it must exceed the number of cast ballots against it and also comprise at least (say) 25% of the "registered voters". (The 25% figure is consistent with the intention of the actual "50% must vote" rule, because if it passes by a narrow margin then about 50% must have
voted.)

I think a rule like this is more democratic than having super-majority requirements that exist in a lot
of places.

But in my opinion, to avoid government abuse of referendum, they should not
pass or fail only on the opinions of the voters that the government was
able to convince to participate.
Kevin, can you explain (and maybe give an example) of what you mean by "government abuse of referendum"
and how your proposal avoids it?

If I choose to not vote in a referendum for some issue, I want this to be
interpreted as "have the government make this decision" not "let the other
voters make this decision."

Since the government derives its authority and legitimacy from being the voters' representatives, I find this personal view of yours to be a bit perverse and undemocratic. Presumably you think this should
be the general view. If so, why?


Chris Benham



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