On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:58 , Fred Gohlke wrote:

You apparently found aspects of my suggestion unacceptable.

I think that the Active Democracy / "groups of three based method" is ok. I just pointed out that it does not guarantee full proportional representation. There are however many kind of elections and not all of them require strict proportionality.

Therefore, it seemed worthwhile to encourage the development of a different approach.

The vote counting of the new proposed method used (conventional) summing of the votes. I was expecting something more radical from you :-), maybe in line with your "groups of three" style or in line with the random ballot and other styles that I discussed. But the nomination process is anyway something that clearly differs from typical current methods and is very "bottom-up" as I'd expect from you. The method seems to be quite open for anyone to become a candidate.

The rules still seem to contain many options (not as carefully thought yet as the Active Democracy method). They resemble Range voting in the way how the given preferences are summed up. The method also seems to have some elements of IRV in how the "order of preference" was handled in the votes (it was not quite clear from the explanation if this ordering was used to actually elect the candidates or just check which ones are electable).

An aspect of Active Democracy that may have escaped notice is:

"The process is inherently bi-directional. Because each elected official sits atop a pyramid of known electors, questions on specific issues can easily be transmitted directly to and from the electors for the guidance or instruction of the official."

Yes, this relationship is strong. The length of the contact chain is relatively long because of the small size of the groups. Some members of the groups may also not consider the elected member to represent themselves. If the groups are formed geographically based on where people live then the method will obviously create strong "local representation".

Juho





                
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