8. Dopp: “Difficult and inefficient to manually audit…”

IRV can be manually audited just as well as vote-for-one elections, although it does take more effort (since voters must be allowed to express more information on their ballot). A manual audit can either be done using a random sample of ballots from all jurisdictions, or a random sample of ballots from a random sample of voting machines, or by a complete re-tally from a random sample of voting machines. A complete re-tally of all ballots (a recount) is, of course, possible but unnecessary unless a court recount is ordered.

Notice the slipperiness. Dopp says it's difficult and inefficient, FairVote says it can be manually audited "just as well" but "it does take more effort." Those are contradictory. Taking more effort is not "just as well." Dopp did not say it was impossible to manually audit. This is typical FairVote argument, Richie is unfazeable. You can tell him his pants are on fire and he'll say that they feel no hotter than usual. Which might be true *and* his pants are on fire.

The counting process is far more complex, so the auditing is far more complex. Ordinarily, with an audit, one can pick a sample precinct and count it. Period. But with IRV, one has to know what round, what candidates were eliminated, before the counting will match what was reported. You have to go through the same process, depending on the same instructions that were given from the central office. I'd estimate that, in an election that went through many rounds, the difficulty could be ten times as great as with simpler, precinct-summable methods. With a precinct summable method, you just count what is on the ballots, you don't need to know anything from other precincts. And then you can compare this with what was reported officially from the precinct.

Note that IRV and other Later-no-Harm methods can't be precinct-summed. This is actually unusual, most election methods can be summed. Approval is obvious: you just count all the votes. Determining a Condorcet winner (candidate who would beat all candidates in a pairwise election with them) is a matter of summing the votes in all pairwise elections, what the precinct reports is a matrix of results, and the matrixes are then summed. So, though it takes more data, Condorcet methods are precinct-summable.

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9. Dopp: “Could necessitate counting all presidential votes in Washington, D.C.…”

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