Yes, this article didn't increase the scientific credibility of the rangevoting site much :-).

> So given this, we suggest to you that based on the data that we have, and until any evidence comes along to the contrary, you should conclude that IRV disfavors racial minorities.

Eating ice cream causes drowning. There is plenty of evidence. Just check the summertime and wintertime statistics and be convinced.

In this case one statistical IRV example seemed to justify the conclusions.


Was there a hidden conclusion that plurality would not hurt minorities, or would not hurt them as much as IRV?


I also didn't see any proposed theory on why IRV would hurt (racial or other) minorities. Is there one? (How about a single-member district based theory?)

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More serious now.

One comment on single-member districts. I think a more typical case where single-member districts may be useful (when we otherwise prefer proportional representation of all the groupings) is the case where we have a minority that is too small to be represented proportionally (requires multiple seats) but we want to guarantee that this minority always gets at least one seat. In such case it may be in the interest of that minority (and the whole community) to elect just one representative that is supposed to represent all the different sections within that minority.

Also in this case methods that guarantee that single seat to be elected always but still maintain proportionality are possible. Here I'm thinking about methods that would force different districts to elect representatives so that the total sum of representatives will be in proportion to the received votes (and maybe also other criteria like regional representation, gender etc.).

In both approaches there is also the risk that the small region in question would be continuously represented by the largest local grouping. There are also ways to fix that. One could e.g. guarantee proportionality in time (by remembering the results of the last election when counting the results of the following election, or by splitting one single term in smaller parts). This may get complex though, so the basic single-member districts may in many cases be enough.

Juho


On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:09 , James Gilmour wrote:

Warren Smith  > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:58 PM
A web page analysing this topic is here
http://rangevoting.org/IRVraceMinorities.html

Whatever the merits or demerits of any single-winner voting system in respective of minority representation, if you are serious about representation of minorities, you start by electing the representative assembly by a sound system of proportional representation in which all representatives are elected from multi- member districts (upper limit: whole country = one electoral district). Single-winner voting systems in single-member districts should not be used to elect representative assemblies, except in the rare situation where one or two electoral districts are so large and so sparsely populated that only a single-member district
makes sense.

James Gilmour

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