Raph Frank wrote:
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On 9/11/08, Aaron Armitage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > It doesn't follow from the fact we choose representatives for ourselves
 >  that we would lose nothing by being stripped of the means of political
 >  action. We would lose our citizenship, because citizenship means precisely
 >  having a share of the right to rule. Registering for a lottery doesn't
 >  count.


So, any form of randomness is not acceptable?  What about one of the
 the proposed random ballot rules, where if there is consensus, a
 specific candidate wins.  However, if that doesn't work, the winner is
 random.

There's probably a tradeoff here. A completely random legislature would have no direct link to the people, except by the people, as a mass, changing their opinions. An elected legislature is at the other end of the scale: the people can directly influence its composition by declining to vote for some candidates and supporting others.

The relative isolation from direct influence is both a random assembly's strength and a weakness. It's a strength because, if campaign men can influence voters in the wrong direction, then the assembly remains impervious to this attack. It's a weakness for the reasons Aaron gives, that it severely weakens the voter-representative link.

A random assembly also resists the attack where one corrupts candidates, simply because it's not clear who the candidates are going to be. I don't know if randomness, or more generally, a weak voter-representative link is required for this resistance. It might be, for a single given representative, but a method where voters elect groups and some subset of each group is taken could also be resistant to this, if it's not obvious beforehand which subset is taken.
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