At 05:33 PM 9/24/2008, Raph Frank wrote:

A Hare election with 10 seats will end up being a Droop election with
9 seats, except for a 1 in a million chance that all the votes are
assigned under Hare and thus all 10 seats are filled.

If you use Droop quota, simple: an extra seat is allowed should everyone get it together. If we go as far as the direct-elector democracy idea, each seat is by default exercising the quota of votes, whatever it was. Electors who are holding votes at the end could still vote directly.

A critical realization in my own process was in realizing that we left direct democracy behind as impractical because of the difficulty of *deliberation*, not because of the difficulty of *voting.* I think of a "seat" as being allowed representation in deliberation. And might as well allow them to vote as well, and to exercise the default votes that elected them, as long as electors don't choose to vote directly. Thus we gain the efficiency of representative democracy, the protection of secret ballot for most voters, and the democratic ideal of allowed participation, without thereby incurring participation bias.

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