On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:45:16 -0600 Kathy Dopp wrote:
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

ANYTHING cam get tampered with if enough doors are left ajar, including
paper ballots (such as discarding, editing, or replacing some).


True, but paper ballots must be tampered with one at a time and it
takes many many more persons to affect any election by tampering with
paper ballots.  Whereas electronic ballots can be tampered with en
masse by one rogue programmer who can fraudulently alter an entire
county's or an entire state's election outcomes.

Paper ballots can be discarded a handful or a boxful at a time.

Rogue programmers SHOULD NOT be invited in, and the real programmers should provide for noticing if such sneak in.

The risk is far greater for electronic fraud which is also much more
difficult to detect and secure against.  Paper ballots are much easier
to secure in a way that is understandable and transparent to citizens
and far more difficult (would take a far larger conspiracy) to tamper
with.

Agreed that unprotected electronic ballots can suffer major theft beyond what can happen to paper ballots.

More complete defenses are possible with electronics.

Mixed into this, Plurality is easily done with paper; better systems, such as Condorcet, are difficult with paper, but easily handled with electronics.

Watch this film for an education. It's great.
http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~seclab/projects/voting/

Cheers,

Kathy
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