On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:16:39 -0600 Kathy Dopp wrote:
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


In fact some computer scientists just recently mathematically PROVED
that it is impossible to even verify that the certified software is
actually running on a voting machine.

Tell us more, a bit more convincingly as to fact behind this opinion -
assuming proper defenses.


Here is the info. I have not read the proof yet myself:

"In 'An Undetectable Computer Virus,' David Chess and Steven White show
that you can always create a vote changing program (called virus
there) that no "verification software" can ever detect.

Gives headaches trying to sort out their details, but I quote one sentence: "This paper's title, then, is deliberately somewhat provocative: while the viruses that we present here are undetectable in the strict formal sense of the term, there is no reason to think that it is impossible to write a program that would detect them sufficiently well for all practical purposes."

If this was not enough, I think of:
Build a master fox computer with special effort to keep rogue programmers out. Foxes ere smart enough to verify that all of them are identical with the masters that are carefully protected, while working foxes may risk harm. Working foxes also verify that other computers of interest remain virus-free - or failures get detected.
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It seems to me that most of the persons on this list would rather have
votes fraudulently counted using some alternative voting scheme that
requires an unverifiable unauditable electronic voting system, than
accurately counted using the plurality election method.

As said elsewhere, most of us are willing to endure some pain if this is what it takes to successfully escape the Plurality world.

Curious.

Cheers,

Kathy
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