On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Kathy Dopp wrote:

Your method is not method-independent because the only way to check
machine counts is with hand counts and some methods are LOTS easier to
accurately and efficiently hand count than other methods, and checking
the results of running a small set of test ballots, or even a large
set, does zip to check election results accuracy.

My suggestion of test data sets is simply a convenience to the authors of counting software, to provide a first-level check of their correctness. The real verification is in the agreement of many independent counters.

STV counting software isn't actually all that difficult to read and understand (not for everybody, of course, but for a very large number of people). I'd be willing to rely on a computerized count in which many independent, open-source counting programs (which could certainly included some written by critics of the system) agreed on the result.

That's not really necessary for IRV, of course, which is easy, if a little tedious, to count by hand.

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