Dave, You are using the term "Condorcet" in a way that is increasingly common, but confusing to election method theorists, to mean a ranked voting method that is easiest to explain by imagining a series of one-on-one comparisons using a ranked ballot. What Chris B. was getting at is that Condorcet is a CRITERION (in fact there is also a Condorcet-loser criterion, which I think is more useful), which is used in evaluating voting methods, rather than an actual voting method itself. There are probably a dozen different voting methods that are Condorcet compliant, and many others that aren't (complying with other criteria that some believe are more crucial). The issue separating the various Condorcet methods is how you find a winner when there is no Condorcet winner.
Terry Bouricius ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Ketchum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "EM" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [EM] [RangeVoting] IRV vs Condorcet vs Range/Score Took a while to decipher what you meant. Others seem to realize my topic is Condorcet vs IRV, both almost twin rank methods. While I do have preferences among methods, this thread is into those two without considering what else I might prefer. DWK On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Chris Benham wrote: > Dave Ketchum wrote: > I started this thread to compare IRV vs Condorcet, believing that IRV is > provably less capable and deserves discarding. > > Dave, > Comparing a decisive method with a criterion is a bit like comparing a > person with "virtue". As soon as you tell us which *decisive method* > you support I will be happy to discuss its comparison with IRV. > > Or failing that, perhaps you could give us some clue as to what method > you support by telling us some other criteria besides the Condorcet > Criterion > that you think a method should meet. > > Chris Benham -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] people.clarityconnect.com/webpages3/davek Dave Ketchum 108 Halstead Ave, Owego, NY 13827-1708 607-687-5026 Do to no one what you would not want done to you. If you want peace, work for justice. ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
