Dave Ketchum wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:51:36 +0100 Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:

The point is that it's an advantage to the voters to express their thoughts in this manner. It's kind of like if Condorcet weighted votes by 1 / (number of ranks specified) so that it made sense to bullet-vote.

It is a convenience, but no advantage as to power of their votes.

It's a mere convenience to Condorcet voters. To Range voters, voting Approval style (certain edge cases notwithstanding) is a definite power advantage.

Say that the election is so far A: 99.8, B: 99.4, C: 37.4, and your sincere preference is A: 0.4, B: 0.7, C: 0.2. You'd prefer B to win, so you say A: 0, B: 1, C: 0.

I am still trying to promote series thought as to need for a majority for other than Plurality or Approval.



A worst-case point of view might be to consider the groups maximally different. That is, nobody who voted A > B also voted A > C. From that point of view, and a strict interpretation of "majority", one would have to have the weakest victory be one of a majority - that is, for the candidate X so that the magnitude of the win of A against X is least, A must beat X by a majority.


Let me offer bullet voting in Condorcet:
     32 A
     33 B
     34 C

C wins because, with 99 voters, C's 34 makes it CW.


That's true. I was talking about Condorcet majorities, though, and none of those would have such a majority.

In general, if you have a voting method and everybody bullet-votes, then you pretty much have to reduce to Plurality, since there's no other information available.

I do not HAVE to reduce Condorcet to Plurality here, for the voters have provided valid Condorcet votes.

However, if bullet voting is common enough in Condorcet elections, it could make sense to count as if Plurality until ranking is seen, and then adjust and continue counting by Condorcet rules.

What I mean is that if you have some method, and the input is only bullet-vote ballots, the method pretty much has to act as Plurality would in that case. That is, the method "reduces" to Plurality in the case of everybody bullet-voting.

Condorcet reduces to Plurality since if all votes are bullet votes, they're effectively of the form

A > B = C = D
B > A = C = D
C > A = B = D

meaning that a vote for whoever was bullet-voted is a vote for that candidate in preference to all other candidates, hence a candidate that would win Plurality is a CW if everybody bullet-votes.
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