Good Morning, Terry

Thanks for joining in.  I hope more people will show an interest.

re: "I suspect part of the differences are that you place such
     an overwhelming focus on political parties as the center of
     control and corruption, while others may view parties as
     virtually appendages of more significant power centers
     (whether that be corporate wealth, unions, intellectual
     elites, or whoever)."

You are probably correct. We have a tendency to see Enron as a black sheep in a field of white ewes. Doesn't that make it even more important to call attention to the mechanism by which "corporate wealth, unions, intellectual elites, or whoever" exercise their control over our government? The financial rubble among which we find ourselves could not have happened without the gutting and ultimate repeal of the laws passed in the 1930's to protect us from a repeat of the calamity wrought by financial institutions. Characterizing those who killed that legislation "appendages of more significant power centers" is neat and accurate phrasing.


re: "For example you quote A. MacIntyre to support your view ...
     but I believe, as an anti-capitalist, he was writing about
     an oligarchy of wealth that narrowed the range of options
     voters were allowed to deal with, rather than political
     parties."

Does MacIntyre's bias alter the accuracy of his assertion? Whether he referred to "an oligarchy of wealth" or the parties that are its appendages is like being run over by a truck. It doesn't matter whether you are hit by the tractor or the trailer, it's the devastation that counts.

It is the parties that establish the electoral rules that arrogate to themselves the right to select the candidates and set the platforms which are the only alternatives available to the people. That the parties speak for 'the power behind the throne' is obvious. In time, those who are able to shed their emotional partisan attachments and allow their reason to surface will see it as well.


re: "IF political parties in the U.S. were indeed the most
     powerful centers of control and corruption, your proposal
     to steer clear of party structures entirely might be
     interesting to more people."

The parties are, indeed, but conduits. Who among us sees through those opaque pipe-lines to the Boeings and the Microsofts and the Goldman Sachs and the Exxon-Mobils who pull the strings? In time, more people will understand why we must dismantle the means by which political control is exercised. Perhaps, then, their interest will grow.


re: "But I suspect many people see parties as merely pragmatic
     'super-structures' catering to the needs of the real
     oligarchs.  I know plenty of party officials, and can assure
     you they are not 'in control' of things."

You're probably right. We vent our anger, disgust and outrage on a string of 'straw men'. This effectively deflects our attention from the more subtle, but more significant, means by which our political existence is controlled. We lament the Jack Abramoffs of the world but ignore the fertile ground in which he thrived and those who enabled him and funded his operations. Although we do it to ourselves, it is still a form of 'divide and conquer'. The party officials you mention may not be 'in control' but they are the means by which control is exercised.

Fred Gohlke
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