I've answered that question on this list before and Abd ul also answered it.
There are *many* good alternative voting methods that do solve the spoiler problem, are monotonic, and elect majority winners and are precinct summable. I don't know of any alternative voting methods as bad as IRV/STV (although there must be one somewhere), so I would probably support almost any alternative method that lacks the multitude of flaws that IRV/STV have. Abd ul has convinced me that regular top-two runoffs are good too. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:50 PM, robert bristow-johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Kathy Dopp wrote: > >> Nice to know someone has some common sense to scrap IRV voting. I >> found out that NYC tried IRV in the 1930s and scrapped it too. Also >> Burlington VT and Aspen CO have ongoing efforts to scrap it > > *some* people in Burlington VT. don't assume (until Town Meeting Day, March > 2) that they speak for the electorate of the city. > > we'll see. > > Kathy, you *still* haven't responded to my question of 10 weeks ago. ever > plan to? > > On Oct 31, 2009, at 12:18 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > >> On Oct 31, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Kathy Dopp wrote: >> >>> 5. It always amazes me how irrationally the supporters of IRV/STV >>> support a nonmonotonic system that creates more problems than it >>> solves when there are clearly better alternatives available that >>> actually solve more problems than they create. >> >> so, Kathy, i am curious as to which of these better alternatives you >> promote? > > i'm still interested in your answer. > > -- > > r b-j [email protected] > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." > > > > > -- Kathy Dopp Town of Colonie, NY 12304 phone 518-952-4030 cell 518-505-0220 http://utahcountvotes.org http://electionmathematics.org http://kathydopp.com/serendipity/ Realities Mar Instant Runoff Voting http://electionmathematics.org/ucvAnalysis/US/RCV-IRV/InstantRunoffVotingFlaws.pdf Voters Have Reason to Worry http://utahcountvotes.org/UT/UtahCountVotes-ThadHall-Response.pdf Checking election outcome accuracy --- Post-election audit sampling http://electionmathematics.org/em-audits/US/PEAuditSamplingMethods.pdf ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
