On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:57 AM, I wrote:

On Apr 11, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Kevin Venzke wrote:

49 A
5 B
19 B>C
27 C>B

It remains bad. I can't see what criticism would
remain of this, other
than saying that in a real election we might be lucky
enough to have
some A voters vote A>B and accidentally give the
election away.

I'm not quite sure that B should win with this set of
votes. Note e.g. that the sincere opinion of the five "B"
voters could be "B>C", and then this example says that
with WV it is ok if those five voters truncate strategically
and B wins instead of C.

Yes, it is okay, because B voters should hardly be able to expect that
they will get full support from C.

In this scenario I'd use another explanation. B and C are from left wing parties that always support each others and rank the right wing candidates (A) last. This time the election will be arranged using WV. B supporters note that they can win by not supporting C any more. C supporters do not have the same incentive since they are about to win. Truncation is also useless as a counter strategy. In a large public election it is probable that also others than B supporters will know about this strategic opportunity and plan. Candidate B could recommend sincere voting to his/her supporters, or maybe not. But many B supporters might vote strategically anyway. C supporters could truncate but that would be just a revenge that could elect A instead of B. The dilemma is thus that B and C could agree before the election that they will recommend sincere voting and the candidate with more support would win (if left has more votes than right), but they can not control the most eager B supporters, and also B might be happy if some of the supporters will truncate. The situation is unstable. If B wins the election with the help of the truncating voters, what can we do before the next election? Maybe change the method. Maybe try to convince all voters that sincere voting is the best approach for all.

Here's one addition to the story. WV has been defended by saying that it is a benefit of WV that defensive truncation is possible. In this example the C supporters could spread word that they plan to truncate in any case (and vote 27: C). This approach would make the strategy of B voters useless in the sense that the risk that truncation of the B voters (5: B instead of sincere 5: B>C) would elect A increases. This approach has however some problems like requiring C voters to be strategic (and also in a way vote against their closest ally). The end result is also very unstable if B and C are about equally strong since then both could claim to be the leading candidate within the left wing and both recommend truncation (=> A may win). Some supporters of both of them may truncate for any of the reasons (attack, defence, revenge).

Juho





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