Dave Ketchum wrote: > Conditions surrounding elections vary but, picking on a simple > example, suppose that, without your vote, there are exactly nR and > nD votes. If that is the total vote you get to decide the election > by creating a majority with your vote.
What do nR and nD stand for? > Or, suppose a count of nPoor, 1Fair, and nGood and thus Fair being the > median before you and a twin vote. > > If such twins vote Poor, that and total count go up by 2, median goes > up by 1 and is now Poor. > > If such twins vote Good, that and total count go up by 2, median goes > up by 1 and is now Good. This example speaks of two votes, but the rules grant me only one. I am interested in the effects of that vote, and any meaning we can derive from them. I say there is none. > Note that single voters get no useful power in an election for > governor, but a majority voting together do have the power (by > combining their votes) to decide the election. I believe that is true for all elections that are conducted by conventional methods, regardless of the ballot used - Plurality, Range, Condorcet or Approval. An individual's vote can have no useful effect on the outcome of the election, or on anything else in the objective world. Again it follows: (a) What the individual voter thinks is of no importance; or (b) The election method is flawed. Which of these statements is true? I think it must be (b). -- Michael Allan Toronto, +1 416-699-9528 http://zelea.com/ > On Aug 27, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Michael Allan wrote: > > >>> But not for voting. The voting system guarantees that my vote > >>> will have no effect and I would look rather foolish to suppose > >>> otherwise. This presents a serious problem. Do you agree? > > > > Dave Ketchum wrote: > >> TRULY, this demonstrates lack of understanding of cause and effect. > >> > >> IF the flask capacity is 32 oz then pouring in 1 oz will: > >> . Do nothing above filling if the flask starts with less than 31 oz. > >> . Cause overflow if flask already full. > >> > >> In voting there is often a limit at which time one more would have > >> an effect. If the act were pouring sodas into the Atlantic the > >> limit would be far away. > > > > Please relate this to an election. Take an election for a US state > > governor, for example. Suppose I am eligible to vote. I say my vote > > cannot possibly affect the outcome of the election. You say it can, > > under certain conditions. Under what conditions exactly? ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
