> From: matt welland <[email protected]> > To: EM Methods <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [EM] the "meaning" of a vote (or lack thereof) and a > (new?) metric for voting systems
> > Here in the US we have these things called "polls" which happen > periodically prior to the real election. Other information sources might > include attending political rallies and noticing the number of people > attending, talking with friends and so forth. > FYI, Virtually all U.S. opinion polls, including the ANES Michigan U academic polls adjust their samples (remove people from the sample) to adjust the samples to match US election results based on the unaudited, unchecked officially reported vote tallies. Thus, if US election results are being manipulated by any of the insiders who secretly "secure" and process US ballots or who secretly count US votes without any independent scrutiny or public oversight, then the opinion polls are biased and do not give any more of a true picture of US opinion than do the secretly processed and tallied US ballots, some of which are even secretly cast (DRE votes). We have very little, if any, reason to believe in the integrity and accuracy of any close election outcomes in the U.S. in the vast majority of US states, and for the same reasons, we should be skeptical of virtually all US opinion polls and the research based on them. There are many many ways to tamper undetectably with election outcomes in the US today, because there are no routine procedures in place to detect such tampering. Kathy Dopp http://electionmathematics.org Town of Colonie, NY 12304 "One of the best ways to keep any conversation civil is to support the discussion with true facts." Fundamentals of Verifiable Elections http://kathydopp.com/wordpress/?p=174 View some of my research on my SSRN Author page: http://ssrn.com/author=1451051 ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
