>Lundell:
>     How does it keep me honest in that scenario? Presumably I'd vote 1-0-0; 
> what's my motivation to do otherwise?
>
>Quinn:
> Because there's a small chance that your (first "honest" range) vote actually 
> will decide between a lottery of some chance of A or C and a certainty of B. 
> If you haven't voted honestly, then that could make the wrong decision. And 
> such decisions are all your "honest" ballot is ever used for, so there is no 
> motivation to strategize with it.

>Lundell:
That's always the case with strategic voting when we don't have
perfect knowledge of the other votes. There's a larger chance (in this
example) that a sincere vote will cause B to defeat A. The more I know
about the state of other voters, the more motivation I have to vote
insincerely.
This is true, of course, of any manipulable voting rule.

--wrong.  There is NOT a "larger chance" that a sincere (double range
voting) vote
will cause B to defeat A.  There is in this example ZERO chance of that,

Also double range voting is NOT a "manipulable voting rule" (or more
precisely, it cannot be advantageously manipulated by altering the
"please be honest" range-style sub-ballot,
and indeed any such manipulation whatsoever will be strictly disadvantageous)

As far as I can tell, Lundell has either never read, or has not
comprehended, what "double range voting" is.

That's a pity because it is a major theoretical advance with
considerable philosophical implications, which was sort of the whole
point of this whole thread.

-- 
Warren D. Smith
http://RangeVoting.org
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