The discussion about IRV referred to something like P(IRV) and P(other), where 
those presumably represent the probability of
success of IRV vs that of other methods.

Burlington should show you that the probability of IRV ever making it to 
federal use is zero. I mean, can you be serious? Any proposal
for federal elections would be thoroughly scrutinized and examined. Do you 
think that Burlington's demonstration of IRV's spoiler
problem won't be found by those studying IRV's merit?

Over the decades, when confronted with IRV's spoiler problem, the IRV promoters 
always insisted that it's just "theoretical".

But now it can no longer be said to be only theoretical, because it has 
happened. In fact, most likely, if complete results were
always available from IRV elections, the spoiler problem would be found to 
happen in other instances as well. 

(We should be contacting IRV opposition in the cities using it or considering 
it, to suggest that they insist that complete
election results be divulged after IRV elections. Maybe letters to the editor 
to papers in those cities too.)

Though I've heard some IRV-promoter rhetoric about it, I haven't heard an 
IRV-promoter's explanation for how that "theoretical"
problem actually happened, and an explanation for how he can still claim that 
IRV's spoiler problem is only theoretical.

David was using "x" to mean "merit" or something like that, when he spoke of 
x(IRV). Regarding IRV's merit, see above.

Mike Ossipoff

                                          
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