On 2/8/12 1:25 PM, Juho Laatu wrote:
On 8.2.2012, at 7.33, robert bristow-johnson wrote:

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if it's not the majority that rule, what's the alternative?
I'm not aware of any good alternatives to majority rule in competitive 
two-candidate elections (with some extra assumptions that rule out random 
ballot etc.).

Juho

thank you Juho, for stipulating to the obvious. i will confess that i am astonished at the resistance displayed here at the EM list to this obvious fact.

so, we all know how Condorcet (i believe) extends this logically to a multi-candidate race, right? if Candidate A is the best candidate to be awarded office, that means that Candidate A is better than Candidate B. it also means that Candidate A is better than Candidate C. if Candidate A is the best candidate, it means that no other candidate is better than Candidate A.

so, how do we determine who is better? we could make them take an exam to show how much they know about job that the elected office entails. or we could make the candidates arm wrestle. but, in a democracy, the way we determine that one candidate is better than some other is that we ask the electorate. sorta like Pilate asking the crowd to choose between Jesus and Barabbas. the ranked ballot tells us who the voter chooses given any pair of choices.

it's simple. when a Condorcet winner exists, to elect *anyone* other than the Condorcet winner is the same as awarding office to the loser in a simple Two-candidate, Simple majority, One-person-one-vote election and i cannot see a *single* justification for doing that. the "weak CW" argument does not cut it at all.

i'm willing to let this rest again for a while. until someone else digs up the corpse.

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r b-j                  [email protected]

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