On 4/16/2012 12:50 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
hey Richard, how did you get "[email protected]" for the
Reply-to header?". i had to change it to get this to post.

That's the email account I sent the message from.

On 4/16/12 12:42 PM, Richard Fobes wrote:
As I recall the issue is that I stated in a previous message that
Approval voting was very unlikely to be adopted for use in U.S.
Presidential _general_ elections. Here are some reasons:

1: Making that change requires adopting a Constitutional Amendment.

not precisely. there is a going state compact movement that will
essentially make the Electoral College a figurehead. it will exist, but
it will be powerless. and it doesn't need a Constitutional amendment,
because the Constitution says that the state legislatures have the
exclusive authority in defining how the presidential electors are
chosen.  ...
> ...

Notice that the "state compact movement" specifies that the state's electoral votes goes to the candidate with the "most votes."

That will lead to ambiguity if there is a strong three-way race.

For example, if the group that has gotten approval in many states to add a third Presidential candidate in the upcoming Presidential general election (I forget their name) were to choose a well-liked liberal candidate, vote splitting between the Democratic candidate (Obama) and the added candidate could cause the Republican candidate (Romney, presumably) to get the most votes, even though a majority of voters vote "against" the Republican candidate.

That would "break" the "most votes" workaround.

Yes, I agree that it is possible that the reform could happen without a Constitutional Amendment.

However, at this rate of progress, the Constitutional Amendment seems as likely as a well-written workaround.

(Jameson made the same point, so this reply also applies to his comment.)

Richard Fobes

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