Thanks for the useful information (and thaks to Warren too for making such fact 
sheets). I guess most of the historical apportionment methods have some good 
arguments why they were invented in the first place.

Juho


On 25.6.2012, at 22.50, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:

> On 06/25/2012 09:29 AM, Juho Laatu wrote:
>> On 25.6.2012, at 4.50, Michael Ossipoff wrote:
>> 
>>>    Do you have an exact formulation on what you think is the crucial
>>>    property that makes SL optimal or best in "equal representation"
>>>    that all should follow (at least when compared to LR)? You focus
>>>    very much on optimization of seats per quota, although you also
>>>    agree that not even SL does perfect job here.
>>> 
>>> So what if SL isn't optimal for equality of S/Q? It does dramatically
>>> better than LR in that regard, and that's sufficient for this discussion.
>>> You ask for an exact formulation of the crucial property that makes SL
>>> [not optimal, but better than LR] in equal representation for people.
>> 
>> Ok, that's a good definition. There is no "SL's optimal proportionality"
>> and it is not "optmal for equality of S/Q" but to you it is important
>> that it is better in S/Q than LR.
> 
> I would like to point out that there are measures which Sainte-Lague 
> (uniquely) optimizes. Some are given on Warren's page about divisor methods, 
> here: http://rangevoting.org/Apportion.html .
> 
> The global optimality property that Sainte-Lague/Webster meets, that it 
> minimizes the variance of the seat-share, seems most relevant in this case. 
> That is, if you call S_k the number of seats for the kth group (party, state, 
> etc), and P_k the number of voters for that group, and the total number of 
> seats (resp. voters) is S (resp. P), Sainte-Lague minimizes
> 
> sum over k
> 
> P_k * (S_k / P_k - S/P)^2
> 
> so in one sense, people get as equal shares of the legislature as possible.
> 
> Similarly, if you pick two states/parties j and k, Webster minimizes the 
> absolute value of S_j/P_j - S_k/P_k, i.e. the difference between "seats per 
> population" (share of influence per person) of state j and k.
> 
> The page also gives optimality properties satisfies by other apportionment 
> methods. If you with to minimize the difference not between seats per 
> population but between population per seat, then pick Dean instead of 
> Webster. And so on...
> 

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