Good Morning, Juho

re: "You seem to assume that "party values" are always bad."

I've explained this. Partisanship is an essential part of society. However, we must prevent parties from inflicting their views on the electorate. Their role must always be to persuade, never to impose. Therein lies the difficulty of conceiving a democratic electoral method; we must devise a method that welcomes parties but prevents their control of government.


re: "... although parties may often have a negative impact on
     candidate selection, there are also aspects that may speak
     in favour of some control in the creation of the candidate
     list."

To the extent you mean the party leaders have a right to control the choice of candidates, I disagree.


re: "Even if we would find some ingenious new system, I hope that
     all would not use it but there would still be alternative
     approaches for comparison and to seek further improvements."

The development of democracy is an evolutionary process. It happens in fits and starts and none of them are final.


re: "I think we can't get fully rid of our represenattives making
     decisions for us in a representative democracy. We must trust
     some people to make the decisions."

Of course! That's why we elect them. The problem we are addressing is that we are only allowed to vote for people who are committed to make decisions for the benefit of their party rather than the benefit of the people. That's wrong.


re: "(Here's btw one possible approach that allows anyone to run.
     There will be a primary elecion at every municipality or
     other small area (common to all voters of that area). Anyone
     can nominate himself as a candiate. The winners will be
     candidates at the next election of a wider area. And the
     winners of those electons will be candiates of the final
     national election. Voters are the same at all levels, just
     grouped into smaller or larger groups. There will be few
     weeks time between the different level elections to reserve
     time for the voters to learn the candidates and their
     opinions.)

The voters can only learn what the candidates tell them, they have no means of independent verification. They cannot examine each of the candidates carefully to determine their integrity and suitability for public office. However, if the candidates, advancing as you describe, must seek election by persuading the other candidates to elect them, we can be sure each of them will do two things:

1) They'll make sure no-one can challenge their integrity. and

2) they'll examine the other candidates, their competitors,
   carefully, looking for ways to "shoot-'em-down".  They will
   not be easily deceived.


re: "I find many different kind of systems useful and potential
     good solutions for some societies."

How about sticking with the leading societies, the ones that have, so far, set the pace for democracy (however imperfectly)?

Fred
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