2012-12-05T16:40:13Z, Kristofer Munsterhjelm:

>       On 12/03/2012 05:53 AM, ⸘Ŭalabio‽ wrote:

>       I only read the beginning of that thread, but it seems they're agreeing 
> with RBJ: Score/Range asks too much of the voter.

        My preferred method is Score-Voting, but I suggested ranked ballots 
with 6 ranks because we have 6 mares running for Best Mare as an acceptable 
alternative.  This is the history:

        We initially used plurality, but it did not work.  The solution is to 
use truncated Borda-Count with 2 ranking with # 1 getting 2 votes and # 2 
getting 1 vote.  I suppose that if this does not work, we can try truncated 
Borda-Count with 3 ranks.  This crazy incrementalism frustrates me.

        If we would use full rankings, we could use Condorcet, Oklahoman 
Electoral Primary-System, and Borda-Count on the output and get 3 full rankings 
as a result.  That would be interesting

>       In any event, their objections (or arguments) seem to be based on the 
> difficulty of answering honestly, not on strategic concerns.

        Yes, these are honest ponies.  I suspect that because of their honesty, 
Borda-Count and Condorcet would both elect the same Best Mare.

>       I'd say there's another method that fits in between and isn't too 
> complex: MJ. MJ doesn't use ratings (and clearly not ratings from -999...999) 
> but grades like "Poor", "Mediocre", "Good", etc.

        The thing about Majority-Judgement is that the more detailed it is, the 
less accurate it is.  Still, what Majority-Judgement does is the equivalent of  
filtering out outliners which might change the result:

        We all know the 80%/20%-rule.  This relates to the 1st 
Feigenbaum-Constant 
(4.66920160910299067185320382046620161725818557747576863274565134300413433021131473713868974402394801381716).
  Let us suppose that we rank the mares on scale from negative -99 to positive 
+99, then delete all scores of negative -99 and positive +99, and then remove 
the top 20% of scores for each mare and the bottom 20% of scores for each mare, 
and then average.  The result should be mathematically equivalent to 
Majority-Judgement.

        1 advantage I see to this, is that it should favor centrists as much as 
Borda-Count, but be as resistant to tactical voting as Condorcet and Approval 
Voting.  It is an interesting proposal.

>       And if grading is too hard, then Schulze should work. It's hard to 
> count, but there are websites that will do the actual counting.

        I suggested doing full rankings and doing Borda-Count, Condorcet, and 
Oklahoman Electoral Primary-System on the results.
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