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  On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 at 8:49, Steven Rubin<stru...@staticfreesoft.com> wrote:   
 
The latest version of Electric requires Java 17 or later, so Version 8 is not 
sufficient, as you have discovered.
 
As for simulating SkyWater, it should be sufficient to have any version of 
Spice, but it's possible that model cards will have to be crafted to get things 
right. Electric supports many version of Spice. It can write the Spice deck, 
then run Spice (if you tell it where Spice is located) and even read the Spice 
output back in and display results in a waveform window that can be 
cross-probed to the original schematic or layout. But getting all of these 
steps right takes a bit of care. The user manual will provide help (it's built 
into Electric) but your own experience simulating SkyWater designs with your 
own version of Spice will be most helpful.
 
   -Steven Rubin
 
 On 8/2/2025 7:53 PM, Gavin wrote:
  
 
Hi, 
  For electric-9.08.1.jar on the Electric VLSI website at [1], the JAVA Version 
8 Update 461 at [2] doesn't work. It does work with JDK 24 (e.g., 
jdk-24_windows-x64_bin.exe) at [3]. 
  Yes, a SPICE simulator can be needed.  The install instructions at [4] likely 
will still work if you just replace instances of 9.07 with 9.08.1. 
  I've not used the SkyWater130 nm process with Electric VLSI myself.  However, 
it looks like you could try following the technology file instructions at [5] 
(again by replacing instances of 9.07 with 9.08.1). 
  [1] https://www.staticfreesoft.com/productsFree.html [2] 
https://www.java.com/en/download/ [3] 
https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/#jdk24-windows [4] 
https://cmosedu.com/cmos1/electric/electric_install.htm [5] 
https://gitlab.com/westernsemico/com.westernsemico.vlsi 
  Kind Regards, Gavin Electric VLSI user 
   On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 3:06:30 PM UTC-6 Arvind Gupta wrote:
  
 
Hi,
 
 
 
  I am new to Electric EDA tool and want to use it to make schematics and 
layouts using the Skywater130nm process. I had some queries regarding the same 
and was hoping someone will answer them:
 
 
 
 
 
Can I use Electric to run simulations or do I need to integrate another 
simulator like Ngpice with it? If yes, what is the process pls? Also what is 
the process of integrating LTspice (latest version) with Electric?
 
 
 
The layout editor has the option for loading the Skywater130nm layout rules. 
Correspondingly, can one use the various transistors available in the Sky 130 
technology to make and run schematic simulations pls? Also are the spice model 
card(s) available with Electric for simulations?
 
 
 
 I am asking the above two queries as the Skywater PDK is available in Github 
(and seems to be available for Electric). However, I don’t know how to compile 
the PDK in Windows and integrate it with the Electric tool. Hence kindly help 
in this matter.
 
 
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Arvind Gupta. 
 
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