Well unfortunately we don't have 3,000+ people watching votebin and automatically sharing the poll when they vote.
Best Regards, Daniel Foré El ago 29, 2012, a las 3:48 p.m., Cody Garver <[email protected]> escribió: > I only use it because I'm bad at Empathy. Please use a more neutral poll > system like VoteBin in the future. > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Daniel Foré <[email protected]> wrote: > I think my biggest point against the messaging menu is that I feel it doesn't > really give me useful information if I want to ignore a notification. > > For example, maybe I don't care what's in my email right now. That little > envelope is going to stay lit up and maybe I'll miss something from Empathy > because I'm just ignoring the blue envelope. > > But with the badges in the dock, now I have everything separated out to where > I can see exactly which apps wanted my attention and I can ignore the ones > I'm not terribly concerned about at the time. > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Pim Vullers <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess dropping it for beta is a good idea. If there is a small set of users > only that require it, they can still install it when it is not present on a > fresh install. > > > Sam Tate <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well since Plank no longer has "app open" indicators, we are trying to remove > the distinction between open and closed apps (like on mobile platforms) > because it simply isn't relevant any more. This means that users will have a > combination of "open" and "closed" apps stored in their dock, and the ones > they are getting messages from (Empathy, Geary) will also be in the messaging > menu. > It's just redundant to have two visual reminders (Red Badge in Plank and Blue > Icon in Wingpanel) so it should just be removed. I think eventually the plan > is to have a system wide notification area like Android, iOS or OSX, and this > is just one step towards that. > > I'm all for removing it - at least for beta1 to see if anyone actually misses > it. > > On 29 August 2012 21:10, Conscious User <[email protected]> wrote: > > As an early supporter and still frequent user of the Messaging Menu, > I want to reply to some of the points raised here. It is particular to take > the following into consideration: > > 1) Whether you intend to support the concept of hiding windows. > > Shnatsel said it's a poor copy of the dock, but I personally differentiate > between "foreground" applications that are part of my current workflow > (be it programming, fooling around or preparing lectures) with > "background" applications that run indepedently of which workflow I'm > currently on. > > I like to include the former on the dock, but not the latter. Background > apps in the dock clutter it, making task switching harder and slower. > Also, badges in the middle of large colored icons are much less efficient > in attracting my attention. Specially because dock icons are moving targets. > > All apps in my Messaging Menu use hide-on-close. I personally think the MM > works very well with those. Unfortunately not all of them (ex: Thunderbird) > do that by default and I need to either hack them or use extensions to > allow them to do that. Which brings to my next point: > > 2) The difference between a concept inherent to the Messaging Menu > and a specific application doing it wrong. > > I think the reputation of the MM was somewhat tarnished by applications > that didn't use it properly (including Canonical-supported ones). Granted, > libindicate is somewhat to blame for allowing those to happen in the > first place, but sometimes it's worthy imagining what an application could > do with the MM, instead of what it currently does. > > Satchitb mentioned that emails are less urgent than IMs. This is probably > true in the general case, but when you use the TB integration for a long > time, you notice that it's not as dumb as it seems at a first glance: it does > not lit the envelop if the email was sent to a mailing list of you were just > CCed. And does not change the MM at all if the message did not arrive > in the main inbox. So this property plus a good combination of filters > restrict the MM to alerting me when I received a direct, personal email. > And I can't be the only one who once had a boss who used emails for > instant communication simply because he never bothered to learn > something else, for example. > > Also worth mentioning is that several app developers do not bother to > implement little details that make MM integration much more usable, > such as unliting the envelope when the proper window/tab is focused > like Empathy does. > > Cheers, > -c > > > Em 29-08-2012 13:41, Daniel Foré escreveu: > > Hey guys, > > Just a quick question: does anyone use the messaging menu? If so, what for? > > If not, should we consider not shipping it? > > Best Regards, > Daniel Foré > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > > Daniel Foré > > elementaryos.org > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > -- > Cody Garver
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