And that's why I use an editor that formats certain things about code for me.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Craig <webe...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think you misunderstand me. A prettifier doesn't force the user's style > on the project, but it changes the format of the pushed code to match that > of the project so, for instance, other elementary developers aren't plagued > by my style and I don't have to mentally manage a conversion between my > work style, my personal style, and the styles of the various projects in > which I participate. > > Yes we should review and test or own code, but we should know enough to > leverage the accuracy and speed of software for frequent and mundane tasks > like reformatting code. > On Apr 1, 2013 1:11 PM, "Victor" <victoredua...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You're right Craig, although there's something I still don't understand: >> Why would somebody want elementary to adapt his/her coding style. >> >> It's fine if developers focus on the logic first, using their own coding >> style, but as a final step those developers should also make sure that >> their code is consistent with the rest of the code in the project they're >> working on. Shouldn't we as developers review and test our own code before >> proposing a patch anyway? We can always adapt the style of new code during >> that self-review, before making our work available to be reviewed by others. >> >> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Craig <webe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Personally, I like that I can write code without thinking about the style >> and then have it styled automatically when I push. It lets me focus on the >> logic of my program rather than whether it obeys a style guideline. This is >> especially useful because I participate in projects involving several >> current languages and each with its own style guideline. >> >> I'm not saying we need something like gofmt, but it's foolish to imply >> that such a tool is useless (especially when we are manually investing time >> correcting code that could be done automatically). >> >> If an appropriate tool doesn't exist, I don't recommend developing one, >> but I don't see how you can mock gofmt when I can validate my style with no >> overhead whatsoever while you are doing it manually. Lol. ;-) >> On Apr 1, 2013 9:28 AM, "David Gomes" <da...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >> >>> Fortunately, most of the developers can write good code. And when they >>> fail to do so we have other developers who review their code. >>> >>> We don't need a fancy tool like gofmt that just changes our code. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Craig <webe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The more I read threads like this the more it seems elementary should >>>> migrate to Go. :-P >>>> On Apr 1, 2013 3:29 AM, "Jaap Broekhuizen" <jaap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree with Victor. Consistency matters because it makes readability >>>>> and therefore maintainability better. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jaap >>>>> Op 1 apr. 2013 09:09 schreef "Victor" <victoredua...@gmail.com> het >>>>> volgende: >>>>> >>>>>> Coding style is a subjective topic, and that's why discussing which >>>>>> one works best is completely pointless, since it's a matter of >>>>>> preferences. >>>>>> It's like discussing what is the best color. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is important is consistency, and that's why all the new code >>>>>> proposed for merging should follow elementary's coding style guidelines >>>>>> (which are not published anywhere in the site as far as I know). Whenever >>>>>> you propose code that is styled inconsistently it only gives the >>>>>> impression >>>>>> that you were coding in a hurry, and we don't want to accept that kind of >>>>>> code, even though we have a ton of it already. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your attention, >>>>>> Victor. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Craig <webe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How do you figure? The go language community uses one and they rave >>>>>> about it. We use them at work (c++) as well and its uses an obnoxious >>>>>> style, but it's still more readable than a dozen different conventions. >>>>>> On Mar 31, 2013 5:39 AM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" < >>>>>> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm afraid automatic "prettifiers" are a terrible idea because >>>>>>> blindly restyling the code usually makes it lose any remains of >>>>>>> readability >>>>>>> it used to have. In other words, automatically restyled code is even >>>>>>> less >>>>>>> readable than code with a foreign coding style. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013/3/31 David Gomes <da...@elementaryos.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wrote this in order to check for code style errors, but it's not >>>>>>>> perfect it's just a help-tool: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/elementary/vala-analyzer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have 'considered' using a prettifier too, but I just use Emacs >>>>>>>> to fix some stuff on my code - a prettifier script would be too much >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> and I don't know of any libraries that would help me with the task. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Craig <webe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good work David. Have you (elementary) considered using a >>>>>>>>> prettifier to standardize a code style upon pushing to your trunk? >>>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2013 7:17 PM, "Cody Garver" <c...@elementaryos.org> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cool, it's pretty thorough. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:58 AM, David Gomes < >>>>>>>>>> da...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19899464/reviewstutorial.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello guys, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From time to time somebody still has doubts on how to use >>>>>>>>>>> Launchpad and Bazaar to review and merge branches to trunk so I >>>>>>>>>>> wrote a >>>>>>>>>>> tutorial. Note though that it may need expansion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Many times, even experienced developers who have been in the >>>>>>>>>>> Apps Team for a long time make mistakes so even if you already know >>>>>>>>>>> how to >>>>>>>>>>> do it, reading the tutorial won't hurt. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I also recommend that all developers that in the future are to >>>>>>>>>>> join the Apps Team read this several times because even though we >>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>> always revert messed-up commits, it's better to do it right at the >>>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> David "Munchor" Gomes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>>>>>>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>>>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Cody Garver >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>>>>>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>>>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >>>>>>> OS architect @ elementary >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>>
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