Having indicators post the UI over D-bus and let anything draw them is actually a pretty good idea, though I dislike the current "dbusmenu + libido" implementation - it's really hacky. It will allow embedding indicators in application titlebars in maximized or fullscreen state - I recall Cassidy mentioning such an idea, is it still pursued?
I doubt indicators will force Upstart dependency on us. Upstart is not a huge interdependent mess like systemd, it's just a way to start things up on demand. We have Cerbere to substitute it on non-ubuntu platforms. Also, some indicator backends are really complex, and I'd rather not reinvent the wheel yet again... and the same goes for plugs, by the way. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
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