hello unfortunately rewrite of pm-cursor implementation is postponed for now, it turned to be more complex than it seemed originally. and i do not have test cases anyway.. however i've made a patch that improves performance of get-instances-by-value (i've sent it to Henrik so it should be available when he'll synchronize with upstream).
so i'll describe profiling results here -- what's fast and what's not with postmodern backend. 1. individual operation in btree -- setting and getting value -- are converted directly into SQL queries, and so they are quite fast (as query in indexed SQL table can be). however, there's considerable client/server communication overhead (system calls, TCP/IP stack..), so making tons of individual sets/gets is not very fast. however, it's possible to cache get operations on client with postmodern backend. two caching options are available -- per-transaction-cache caches only inside one transaction. global-sync-cache caches data between transactions, synchronizing it with other working instances -- it tracks changes and invalidates cache entries accordingly. synchronization brings some overhead, and thus it's good only for certain types of workload (mostly-read). it's possible to implement global-cache for single-instance mode, that will do no synchronization, but this mode is not implemented because db-postmodern focuses of safety of use with multiple instances working with database simultaneously. get-instance-by-value, after a patches suggested by Alain, uses btree get-value, and thus is cached too. there's gotcha when using caches with large data sets -- cache entries doesn't get garbage collected, so it's possible to run out of memory. it's possible to use weak hash table in this case (see make-backend-cache in pm-cache, no configuration option), but i don't know how good caching will be with it. patch for some smarter solution is welcome. 2. get-instances-by-value, with my specialized map-index implementation, uses SQL query to retrieve data directly, so it should be pretty fast. however it doesn't use caching. it doesn't uses cursor, so all instances are always returned, it may be a problem if there's a lot of instances for some key. 3. cursors: in general, they do not work very well for now. first of all, they do not always return values in order as specified by "lisp sorter". moreover, if you do not have keys of same type (either all integers or strings) you get a random order. (with integers and strings you get order according to SQL comparison rules). we are not going to fix this issue (besides, maybe, allowing NILs to be mixed with integers or strings safely), since we believe it's more important to support good performance in practical cases (having all keys of same type). we could implement some emulation mode that will retrieve all data and sort it on lisp side, but probably it's better to use CLSQL backend if "lisp sort" ordering is a requirement of an application. then, probably the only thing that cursors are good at is iterating all the sequence from start to the end. iterating some limited set of values from start *almost* works fine. to do it efficiently on large table it's required to configure PostgreSQL -- disable hashjoin and mergejoin, otherwise it thinks that it's faster to process whole table rather than doing it incrementally. processing table with 10000 items costs 60-70 milliseconds. (additionally i suspect some small patch to db-postmodern is required to build correct indices for cursors to work incrementally). iterating from end doesn't work good -- it scans through all table (probably even twice) due to bug in cursor implementation. this should be more-or-less easily fixable, though. cursor-set performance depends on how far is key you search for from the start of the table. (!). it's counting on postgresql side, though, so for 10000 items table it should take about 70 msecs in worst case. multiple cursor-set calls will get equally slow all. i have some ideas how to fix cursor implementation so it will not depend on size of table (to the extent PostgreSQL does not depend, of course), but i don't know when i'll have a chance to implement it. as i've mentioned, i've currently do not even have a practical test case where cursor iteration is used. 4. get-instances-by-range uses cursors, and so it inherits all it's problems 5. psets: default implementation of psets makes instance of btree for each of them. in db-postmodern btree has it's own SQL table, so it's not a good idea to have thousands of psets. although they might be quite useful to have in big amounts, so probably we'll invent something better in future for them. with best regards, Alex 'killer_storm' Mizrahi. _______________________________________________ elephant-devel site list elephant-devel@common-lisp.net http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/elephant-devel