I can get behind this as a no-config-option compromise. :) ...Paul
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Aleksei Magusev <lex...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm wondering, what if we go with combined approach: > at first TAB we're getting autocomplete up to the "dot" > and next TAB is appending the "dot". > > I believe it can be a good compromise. :) > > > On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:29:24 PM UTC+2, Myron Marston wrote: >> >> Since I haven't found a good way in iex to "cancel the current line", if >>> I get in that spot, I lose a lot of history and current variables and >>> whatnot. >> >> >> I've tend to do this, too, even though I've been using Elixir as my main >> language at work for nearly a year. It's a big reason I find the appended >> period to be so annoying. >> >> If anything, my vote would be to make it optional -- but default it to >>> NOT appending the dot. >> >> >> I agree. If we make it a config option, I think it would help newcomers >> to the language if we made it opt-in instead of opt-out. Given that most >> auto-complete tooling does not usually add an extra period, newcomers to >> the language are not going to expect it, and won't know how to get out of >> the "current line" issue Paul mentioned without exiting the IEx session and >> restarting it. Furthermore, since they are a newcomer, they are not likely >> to know about the config option. >> >> OTOH, experienced users who may want the appended period will understand >> IEx's config system and can more easily configure it for their needs. >> >> Myron >> >> On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 9:51:02 AM UTC-7, ...Paul wrote: >>> >>> I'm actually with Myron. Since I haven't found a good way in iex to >>> "cancel the current line", if I get in that spot, I lose a lot of history >>> and current variables and whatnot. If anything, my vote would be to make >>> it optional -- but default it to NOT appending the dot. I prefer UI >>> elements that help me do what I want to do, not make presumptions about >>> what I want to do. >>> >>> ...Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Louis Pop <louisp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I share Jose' opinion here, but making it configurable sounds good. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Louis >>>> >>>> On 23 June 2016 at 17:40, Myron Marston <myron....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This behavior of IEx has always surprised and annoyed me. I regularly >>>>> type h [first few chars of mod name]<tab><enter> in IEx to read the >>>>> read the moduledoc of a particular module, and the trailing period gets in >>>>> the way every time. >>>>> >>>>> Here’s a demonstration showing what happens to me regularly when I try >>>>> to read the @moduledoc for a module: >>>>> >>>>> [image: iex_autocomplete_original] >>>>> >>>>> With this change, it avoids this problem: >>>>> >>>>> [image: iex_autocomplete_improved] >>>>> >>>>> I opened a PR with this change >>>>> <https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/4863> but was asked to >>>>> redirect conversation here for community feedback first. On the PR, >>>>> @antipax said (and @josevalim concurred): >>>>> >>>>> I’m not in support of merging this, if only because the vast majority >>>>> of the time I autocomplete a module in IEx it is to make a remote call. >>>>> >>>>> I thought the purpose of autocomplete in IEx is to autocomplete tokens >>>>> (e.g. module and function names) not to guess the intention of the >>>>> programmer and add additional characters after the token. IMO, it’s much >>>>> more natural to just complete the module name, and people who want to do a >>>>> remote call (or navigate to a “nested” module) can type a period, than to >>>>> add the period and force the programmer to delete it. After all, I believe >>>>> the autocomplete plugins in most text editors/IDEs would just autocomplete >>>>> the module name, and not add the period. >>>>> >>>>> On the PR @antipax also said: >>>>> >>>>> I would be in support of making this configurable, however. >>>>> >>>>> Having this be configurable would meet my needs as long as I could >>>>> configure it globally (presumably in ~/.iex.exs) but the trailing dot >>>>> still feels like an odd default to me. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts from the community? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Myron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "elixir-lang-core" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to elixir-lang-co...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/CADUxQmu%3Dnc1VpF9Y8oFE%2Bzsp45Xb_sCVZjdPLgBQivrpt2iv2g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/CADUxQmu%3Dnc1VpF9Y8oFE%2Bzsp45Xb_sCVZjdPLgBQivrpt2iv2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "elixir-lang-core" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to elixir-lang-co...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/CAM-pwt4sRT8UVdTkEMm1eWsaLdrG%2BbYWnNN20zqtQEvJHq2rrg%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/CAM-pwt4sRT8UVdTkEMm1eWsaLdrG%2BbYWnNN20zqtQEvJHq2rrg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elixir-lang-core" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to elixir-lang-core+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/386bdd96-d3e0-4b90-8172-a5bbe51a1246%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/386bdd96-d3e0-4b90-8172-a5bbe51a1246%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elixir-lang-core" group. 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