In that case, module + name should work just fine, so building the manifest
is the first step :).

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:55 PM, José Valim <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tests are uniquely identified by module+name. It is not quite powerful as
> an ID system but it does the job of identifying tests uniquely.
>
>
>
> *José Valimwww.plataformatec.com.br
> <http://www.plataformatec.com.br/>Founder and Director of R&D*
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:14 PM, Myron Marston <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I think the first step is to build the manifest itself which will give us
>> the last_run_status information. Is that right?
>>
>> I think there’s a pre-requisite you need to get out of the way before you
>> can build the manifest: you need to decide how you plan to uniquely
>> identify each test. Does ExUnit already have something analogous to RSpec’s
>> example ids? If not, you could potentially use either the test name or the
>> test location (e.g. file_name:line_number) but those may not be
>> sufficient (for RSpec they weren’t). For RSpec, the file location is not
>> guaranteed unique, since you can dynamically define multiple tests in a
>> loop, which results in multiple tests sharing the same file location, and
>> this seems like a problem for ExUnit. Likewise, RSpec does not require that
>> each test description is unique (I think ExUnit might require this,
>> though…is that right?). Even if test descriptions are unique, it has some
>> properties that, IMO, make it undesirable for use here:
>>
>>    - There’s no easy way to map a test description back to the file the
>>    test is defined in, which means it limits the kind of cleanup you can do 
>> as
>>    part of merging the current results and the old results. At the end of a
>>    test run, RSpec cleans up the manifest by removing tests that cannot
>>    possibly still exist due to their file no longer existing, which is only
>>    possible since the example ids list what file the tests come from.
>>    - Test descriptions often change when the contents of the test may
>>    not. (Likewise, the location of a test can easily change just by the
>>    introduction of a helper function, an import or alias at the top of
>>    the module, etc).
>>
>> It’s easiest to explain how RSpec’s example ids work by showing an
>> example:
>>
>> # foo_spec.rb
>> RSpec.describe "Group 1" do
>>   it 'foos' do # foo_spec.rb[1:1]
>>     # ...
>>   end
>>
>>   describe "a nested group" do
>>     it 'bars' do # foo_spec.rb[1:2:1]
>>       # ...
>>     end
>>
>>     it 'bars again' do # foo_spec.rb[1:2:2]
>>       # ...
>>     end
>>   end
>>
>>   it 'foos again' do # foo_spec.rb[1:3]
>>
>>   endend
>> RSpec.describe "Group 2" do
>>   it 'foos' do # foo_spec.rb[2:1]
>>     # ...
>>   endend
>>
>> Basically, we number each example and example group with a counter that
>> starts over at 1 within each new scope, and use colons to separate the
>> elements that form the “path” to the specific example. A nice thing about
>> the ids is that they are relatively stable even in the sense of further
>> development of the file. Users can change their test descriptions and
>> introduce new things that change the line numbers, and the ids still work
>> to correctly identify the tests.
>>
>> Would it make sense to introduce something like this for ExUnit? In RSpec
>> we have found these ids to be useful for several other things (including
>> --bisect, deterministic ordering when applying a seed to a subset, etc).
>>
>> BTW, this is something I’d be happy to take a stab at in ExUnit unless
>> someone else wanted to do it.
>>
>> Myron
>> ​
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:45 AM, José Valim <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's very helpful, thank you Myron.
>>>
>>> We already keep several manifests for compiled code with the function
>>> calls, files and modules. Therefore it should be relatively
>>> straight-forward to keep one for tests. I think the first step is to build
>>> the manifest itself which will give us the last_run_status information. Is
>>> that right?
>>>
>>> Implementation-wise, we can probably even use a custom "formatter" to
>>> maintain this information. All we need is a path to store this manifest
>>> (which is opt-in but mix test can generate one by default in _build and
>>> pass to ExUnit).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *José Valimwww.plataformatec.com.br
>>> <http://www.plataformatec.com.br/>Founder and Director of R&D*
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Allen Madsen <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for --next-failure functionality. My current approach with ExUnit is
>>>> basically a manual version of that.
>>>>
>>>> Allen Madsen
>>>> http://www.allenmadsen.com
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Myron Marston <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I believe this would be a good addition. My only question is where are
>>>>> the failed tests stored? In _build?
>>>>>
>>>>> For RSpec we made users configure where this state is stored, via a
>>>>> config.example_status_persistence_file_path option. RSpec didn’t have
>>>>> an established place to write that state so we left it up to the user to
>>>>> decide where they wanted it to go. I think for ExUnit, storing it in
>>>>> _build make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, note that we are not merely storing a list of failed tests.
>>>>> We store a list of *all* tests (including ones that were not included
>>>>> in the latest run) that looks like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> example_id                                                             | 
>>>>> status  | run_time        |
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | 
>>>>> ------- | --------------- |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:1:1]                   | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00115 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:1:2]                   | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00052 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:1:3]                   | 
>>>>> unknown |                 |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:1:4]                   | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00048 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:2:1:1]                 | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00058 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:2:2:1]                 | 
>>>>> failed  | 0.00088 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:2:3:1]                 | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00084 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:3:1]                   | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00052 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:3:2]                   | 
>>>>> failed  | 0.00059 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/backtrace_formatter_spec.rb[1:4:1]                   | 
>>>>> pending | 0.00053 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/bisect/coordinator_spec.rb[1:1]                      | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00366 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/bisect/coordinator_spec.rb[1:2]                      | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00307 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/bisect/coordinator_spec.rb[1:3:1]                    | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.002 seconds   |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/bisect/coordinator_spec.rb[1:3:2]                    | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00231 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/bisect/coordinator_spec.rb[1:4:1]                    | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00293 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/bisect/example_minimizer_spec.rb[1:1]                | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.00049 seconds |
>>>>> ./spec/rspec/core/bisect/example_minimizer_spec.rb[1:2]                | 
>>>>> passed  | 0.0006 seconds  |
>>>>>
>>>>> # ...
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a custom serialization format we designed to be easily
>>>>> scannable by a human (as it’s useful information, particular the
>>>>> run_time). The example_id column uniquely identifies each test (since
>>>>> the other common ways to identify tests, such as description and file
>>>>> location, are not guaranteed to be unique). Every time a test run 
>>>>> finishes,
>>>>> we merge the results with the existing contents of this file using a
>>>>> few simple rules
>>>>> <https://github.com/rspec/rspec-core/blob/v3.7.0/lib/rspec/core/example_status_persister.rb#L66-L72>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> We then use this data to automatically add :last_run_status metadata
>>>>> to every test (with values of passed, failed, pending or unknown)
>>>>> when the spec files are loaded, which unlocks the generic ability to 
>>>>> filter
>>>>> based on this via the RSpec CLI:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ rspec --tag last_run_status:failed
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the equivalent of --only failed like you asked about, José.
>>>>> Whether or not you add an explicit option like --only-failures is up
>>>>> to you, but the explicit option does provide a couple nice advantages for
>>>>> RSpec:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - It surfaces this extremely useful option in the --help output.
>>>>>    Without calling it out, it would not be clear to most users that 
>>>>> failure
>>>>>    filtering is possible.
>>>>>    - Since we can easily tell from our persistence file which spec
>>>>>    files have failures, when --only-failures is passed, we
>>>>>    automatically load only those files. In contrast, --tag filtering
>>>>>    doesn’t generally know anything in advance about which files might have
>>>>>    specs matching the tag, so --tag last_run_status:failed will load
>>>>>    *all* spec files, and then apply the filtering. This can be
>>>>>    significantly slower, particularly if there are files without failures 
>>>>> that
>>>>>    load a heavyweight dependency (like rails).
>>>>>
>>>>> One other option we provide (which ExUnit may or may not want to
>>>>> provide) is --next-failure. This is the equivalent of --only-failures
>>>>> --fail-fast --order defined. The idea is that you often want to work
>>>>> through the failures systematically one-by-one. --fail-fast causes
>>>>> RSpec to abort as soon as the first failure is hit and --order defined
>>>>> disables the random ordering so you get the same failed example when you
>>>>> run rspec --next-failure over and over again to help you focus on a
>>>>> specific one. This option is also why we do the merging operation with the
>>>>> status from prior runs: it’s important that we preserve the failed
>>>>> status of tests that weren’t executed in the latest run.
>>>>>
>>>>> ExUnit certainly doesn’t have to go the same route RSpec went here,
>>>>> but the combination of the perf speed up from avoiding loading files with
>>>>> only passing tests and the usefulness of --next-failure is pretty
>>>>> awesome, IMO.
>>>>> ​
>>>>> Myron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:03 AM, José Valim <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe this would be a good addition. My only question is where
>>>>>> are the failed tests stored? In _build? Also, maybe we can also implement
>>>>>> it as a special tag called "--only failed" or "--only failures"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *José Valimwww.plataformatec.com.br
>>>>>> <http://www.plataformatec.com.br/>Founder and Director of R&D*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:03 AM, Myron Marston <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I too would love to see ExUnit support an `--only-failures` flag.
>>>>>>> It's one of my favorite features of RSpec and I wish every test 
>>>>>>> framework
>>>>>>> had it.  I find that it makes a huge difference to my workflow to be 
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to quickly and easily filter to the tests that failed the last time they
>>>>>>> ran.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, I love this feature of RSpec so much that I was the one who
>>>>>>> added it to the framework a couple years back :).  I'd be happy to help 
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> it get added to ExUnit if José and others were amenable.  ExUnit already
>>>>>>> has most of the building blocks needed for it via tags and filtering.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Myron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 2:48:14 PM UTC-8, José Valim
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To clarify, --stale does not run previously failed tests.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > I just changed the format of the message built within
>>>>>>>> `MyApp.Mixpanel`. This caused `assert_receive` to fail in tests 
>>>>>>>> throughout
>>>>>>>> my app, as expected. But since the tests didn't directly reference
>>>>>>>> `MyApp.Mixpanel`, `--stale` didn't know which ones should be run when 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> message format changed; I had to run all tests to get them to fail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That feels like a bug. Maybe we are being conservative on how we
>>>>>>>> compute the dependencies. If you can provide a sample app that 
>>>>>>>> reproduces
>>>>>>>> the error, I would love to take a look at it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *José Valimwww.plataformatec.com.br
>>>>>>>> <http://www.plataformatec.com.br/>Founder and Director of R&D*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Nathan Long <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure. I have a module called `MyApp.Mixpanel` with functions like
>>>>>>>>> `track_event(:user_signup, data_map)`. These are called from various 
>>>>>>>>> places
>>>>>>>>> throughout the codebase. There's a production adapter, which actually 
>>>>>>>>> sends
>>>>>>>>> the event data to Mixpanel for analytics purposes, a dev adapter, 
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> just logs it, and a test adapter, which sends it to `self()` as a 
>>>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Several of my tests say things like "if I POST the info required
>>>>>>>>> for a new user signup, I should get a message showing that the 
>>>>>>>>> correct info
>>>>>>>>> would have been sent to Mixpanel." These use `assert_receive`.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just changed the format of the message built within
>>>>>>>>> `MyApp.Mixpanel`. This caused `assert_receive` to fail in tests 
>>>>>>>>> throughout
>>>>>>>>> my app, as expected. But since the tests didn't directly reference
>>>>>>>>> `MyApp.Mixpanel`, `--stale` didn't know which ones should be run when 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> message format changed; I had to run all tests to get them to fail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is no big deal, but it would be nice in such situations to
>>>>>>>>> run all tests once, then be able to whittle down the failing tests 
>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>> re-running the whole suite.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:54:51 PM UTC-5, Louis Pilfold
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nathan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I feel ExUnit --stale should always be able to tell this. Could
>>>>>>>>>> you share your example please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Louis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 20:43 Nathan Long <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruby's Rspec has a handy option, `--only-failures`, which
>>>>>>>>>>> "filters what examples are run so that only those that failed the 
>>>>>>>>>>> last time
>>>>>>>>>>> they ran are executed". https://relishapp.com/rspec/rs
>>>>>>>>>>> pec-core/docs/command-line/only-failures
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to have this feature in ExUnit. The closest thing I see
>>>>>>>>>>> right now is `--stale`, but if ExUnit can't accurately determine 
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> tests may have been broken by a change, it doesn't work. (I have 
>>>>>>>>>>> such an
>>>>>>>>>>> example, but don't want to be long-winded; maybe the utility of this
>>>>>>>>>>> feature is clear enough?)
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