*José, Andrea & Fernando, *

What are your thoughts on adding a default value via System.fetch_env/2? - 
https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/8897


On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 11:00:37 AM UTC-7, José Valim wrote:
>
> I agree. But it should be called System.fetch_env!/2 and we should have 
> System.fetch_env/2 too. PR is welcome.
>
>
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> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:38 AM <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I really would to see something like this on elixir. I suggested 
>> something really similar, the addition of an `fetch_env!` function to the 
>> System module. 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elixir-lang-core/gijvoPm-a-0/Y2TzcHaiBgAJ
>>
>>
>> Em sexta-feira, 1 de março de 2019 14:03:03 UTC-3, Fl4m3Ph03n1x escreveu:
>>>
>>> Background
>>> I know this was proposed before and refuted: 
>>> https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/issues/5608
>>>
>>> However, I recently had an issue that would have benefited from 
>>> System.get_env! and was advised to create a proposal in this group and 
>>> reopen the discussion.
>>>
>>> What was the issue?
>>> Imagine you have a config.exs where you define some configurations. 
>>> Imagine one of the configurations is the following:
>>>
>>> config :my_app,
>>>   geolix_db_path: System.get_env("PROJECTS_PATH") <> 
>>> "/my_app/lib/geoip/GeoLite2-Country.mmdb"
>>>
>>> Now this may look normal, but what if you don't have the "PROJETCS_PATH" 
>>> variable defined? 
>>> What error do you think you would get?
>>>
>>> We got this:
>>>
>>> ** (ArgumentError) argument error
>>> (stdlib) eval_bits.erl:101: :eval_bits.eval_exp_field1/6
>>> (stdlib) eval_bits.erl:92: :eval_bits.eval_field/3
>>> (stdlib) eval_bits.erl:68: :eval_bits.expr_grp/4
>>> (stdlib) erl_eval.erl:484: :erl_eval.expr/5
>>> (stdlib) erl_eval.erl:888: :erl_eval.expr_list/6
>>> (stdlib) erl_eval.erl:240: :erl_eval.expr/5
>>> (stdlib) erl_eval.erl:232: :erl_eval.expr/5
>>>
>>> What now?
>>> If you find this error message borderline useless and beyond cryptic, then 
>>> you are with me. 
>>> The problem is that the stacktrace is obfuscated while the config file is 
>>> being evaluated. 
>>>
>>> The WHY of the proposal
>>> A way of avoiding this would be to have a System.get_env! that blows 
>>> immediately making the error very clear. 
>>> I know I can use || raise "error" but I would like to avoid that every time 
>>> I use System.get_env in a config file (or somewhere else  for that matter).
>>>
>>> Have you imagined what is like reading a config.ex file hundreds of lines 
>>> long while using the || raise trick? 
>>> We already have trouble managing our huge config files, adding this would 
>>> make it even worst.
>>>
>>> Additional info
>>> This discussion was generated from the forums. The original post with all 
>>> the information can be seen here:
>>>
>>> https://elixirforum.com/t/mix-exs-does-not-compile/20516
>>>
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