Yeah, I was pointing out it could be done only partially, and therefore it
would be incomplete as a solution.


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On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:54 AM Steve Morin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jose,
> Thought that you were mentioning that metadata could be added to those
> that don't have metadata?  You're prior comments made it sound like it
> could be worked around (potentially) and that you would be supportive of
> that.  Did I miss understand you?
>
> From you're prior reply:
>
>> I like the metadata idea a lot, thanks. We still need someone to send a
>> detailed proposal, including what will happen with inline comments,
>> comments inside blocks and comments as the last line of a block with no
>> expression afterwards.
>>
>
>
>> We also need a discussion on what will happen with nodes that do not have
>> a metadata entry. Wrapping those in a block is likely enough (but it will
>> break semantics, for example, in keywords lists). So it would need to be an
>> opt-in feature only.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:00 PM José Valim <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve, as mentioned in this discussion, we can't really store it in
>> the AST as not all nodes have metadata. My suggestion is to keep it on the
>> side, similar to how we do in the formatter. Thanks for offering the bounty
>> though!
>>
>> *José Valim*
>> www.plataformatec.com.br
>> Skype: jv.ptec
>> Founder and Director of R&D
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:10 PM Steve Morin <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jose, RE adding comments to AST meta data.  Realized I don’t  have time
>>> to add it.  But what are your feeling on me putting up a bounty on it?
>>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 12:02, José Valim <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have to disagree on some points:
>>>
>>> 1.  Traversing the AST is not as complex as it sounds. You literally
>>> need four clauses (and the first two can be written as proxy to the third):
>>>
>>> def traverse({left, meta, right})
>>>
>>> def traverse({one, two})
>>> def traverse([_ | _] = list)
>>>
>>> def traverse(other)
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. If we converted everything to 3 element tuples, the issue is not only
>>> Macro.keywordify as there are also macros that match on atoms too (and on
>>> strings too albeit less common). For instance, every Phoenix application
>>> does it . So making everything a three-element tuple would hurt that.
>>>
>>> 3. Note that {:integer, [], 1} and {:atom, [], "foo"} would be their own
>>> AST nodes too, as there are now new rules for what the 3 element actually
>>> is. Sure, it is more consistent in terms of metadata, but you are not
>>> really reducing the number of nodes. You could make them {:integer, meta,
>>> [1]} and similar but that would mean introducing new special forms.
>>>
>>> I definitely agree that having a fixed place for metadata would improve
>>> certain cases but the trade-offs are much more nuanced than implied. The
>>> current AST was not optimized for reconstruction but for developer
>>> ergonomics and I believe the proposed standardisation would make certain
>>> features much more bureaucratic.
>>>
>>> *José Valim*
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>>>
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