Ok. I'm good with that. It'd be great to work on dismissing the possibility of | redefinition and adding support for right-associative +++/2 and ---/2 to be able to be redefined as custom operators. I have time to work on this.
How can we proceed? On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 2:23:59 PM UTC+2, José Valim wrote: > > We don't plan to introduce any non-ascii operator to the language. > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:19 PM Louis Pilfold <lo...@lpil.uk <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Hiya >> >> While I'm a big fan of editor customising I think it's important to make >> technology as accessible as possible. Maybe people (most?) will not know >> how to either type these characters with their keyboard or know how to >> configure their editor to enter them on their behalf. Adoption will be slow >> and the language will seem unfriendly if its features are not usable by all. >> >> Cheers, >> Louis >> >> >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, 13:13 Ivan Rublev, <ivan.rubl...@gmail.com >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your comment. It may seem frustrating to use a shortcut to >>> enter a symbol, especially when it's not engraved on a keyboard. Same time, >>> we use shortcuts every day to speed up input. >>> Emacs and Vim are enhanced editors. And I'm glad to hear that you use >>> them. Emacs is very tweakable, and this is one of the brilliant properties >>> of this tool that you can adjust for your comfort. F.e. adding >>> (global-set-key >>> [?\M-\q] [?\x00AB]) to the Emacs Init File gives you « symbol entered >>> when you press Alt+q. And a key combination suitable for you can be >>> assigned. Vim supports special symbols entered as-is coming from the OS >>> input subsystem. F.e. in MacOS Vim, you can press the Alt+\ and have « >>> symbol entered when in Input mode. >>> >>> A new operator should be easily typed in as many keyboard layouts as >>> possible. Primarily because of that, these symbols « µ ¶ ¿ were >>> suggested. >>> Please, see input support for these symbols with US-international / >>> UK-extended / German layouts in different OSes: >>> Windows (Alt + key): >>> https://sites.psu.edu/symbolcodes/windows/codeint/#foreign >>> Linux (Compose key shortcuts): >>> https://fsymbols.com/keyboard/linux/compose/ >>> macOS (Alt + key): https://fsymbols.com/keyboard/mac/ >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 9:06:29 PM UTC+2, me wrote: >>>> >>>> > Is it a ridiculous idea to add one of those symbols as a new operator >>>> > with the right to left associativity? >>>> >>>> As an Emacs (and light Vim) user, I would personally suggest against >>>> something like this. At least in Emacs, it is not as simple as just >>>> alt+keys in order to get these characters. And even if it were, >>>> newcomers to the language, and people who rarely use these operators, >>>> will have to lookup the key combination, or figure out how to do such a >>>> thing in their editor. >>>> >>>> I would suggest that if any new operators were added to the language, >>>> they should be easily typed in as many keyboard layouts as possible. >>>> >>>> Justin >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "elixir-lang-core" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to elixir-l...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/f8ebb77a-540d-44d1-bbee-8efbb101d981%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/f8ebb77a-540d-44d1-bbee-8efbb101d981%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "elixir-lang-core" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to elixir-l...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/CABu8xFDLGqx2kZV%2BCy7jjxesVHtVqC7KSEQTy%3DFURba06SYEUw%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/CABu8xFDLGqx2kZV%2BCy7jjxesVHtVqC7KSEQTy%3DFURba06SYEUw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elixir-lang-core" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to elixir-lang-core+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/0a031610-90f4-4116-ae55-21a4df1c5d05%40googlegroups.com.
