Hmm. I can't give too much detail, but the basic context is a LiveView form 
where the user selects some ports and the form provides suggestions as they 
type. Eg, if they type `2` it will suggest `22 - SSH`, `25 - SMTP`, etc.

The currently-selected ports are a list of integers. If `22` is already 
selected, the LiveView won't suggest it. So if the LiveView gets a message 
to deselect `22`, it tries to pop it out of the `selections` list. If the 
pop succeeds, the `suggestions` list can be updated to include port `22` 
again. If the pop doesn't succeed, we can ignore the message; we can't 
deselect a port that wasn't selected to start with.

I can't combine `selected` and `suggested` (eg by flagging the suggestions 
which are also selected) because both collections can contain elements that 
the other doesn't contain; the user may select ports that are not in the 
suggestions list. And it's not practical to have a top-level list of every 
possible port and flag each as `selected`, `suggested`, or both, because 
there are are 65,535 possible ports.

So the core of my use case is: I get a user message to remove an item from 
a list, and after attempting to remove it, I want to take a follow-up 
action only if the item was was actually in the list.

On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-5 José Valim wrote:

> Hi Nathan, thanks for the email. Can you please show some examples of 
> where they could be handy with some context around them? Thank you!
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 3:45 PM h...@nathanmlong.com <h...@nathanmlong.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> This is a modified version of what I proposed in 
>> https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/11681
>>
>> Similar to `Map.pop/2` and and `Keyword.pop/2`, I propose adding 
>> `List.pop/2`.
>>
>> I also propose adding `List.find_and_pop/2`, which is more generalized 
>> since it takes a function.
>>
>> Here are possible implementations.
>>
>> ```elixir
>> @doc """
>> Returns and removes the first value matching `item` in the `list`.
>>
>> ## Examples
>>    iex> List.pop([1, 2, 2, 3], 2)
>>    {2, [1, 2, 3]}
>>    iex> List.pop([1, 2, 3, 4], 20)
>>    {nil, [1, 2, 3, 4]}
>> """
>> def pop(list, item) do
>>   find_and_pop(list, &(&1 == item))
>> end
>>
>> @doc """
>> Returns and removes the first value matching `fun` in the `list`.
>>
>> ## Examples
>>    iex> List.find_and_pop([1, 2, 3, 4], &(&1 > 2))
>>    {3, [1, 2, 4]}
>>    iex> List.find_and_pop([1, 2, 3, 4], &(&1 > 20))
>>    {nil, [1, 2, 3, 4]}
>> """
>> def find_and_pop(list, fun) do
>>   case Enum.find_index(list, fun) do
>>     nil -> {nil, list}
>>     i -> pop_at(list, i)
>>   end
>> end
>> ```
>>
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