Does the specification provide tests for us to include? Otherwise we can
include enough tests for full line coverage and a “brute force”/property
test commented out.

I would say the name “replace_invalid” is excellent.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 18:52 Cameron Duley <cameron.dule...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This was the final version I'd landed on for UTF-8:
>
> https://github.com/elixir-unicode/unicode/blob/main/lib/unicode/validation/utf8.ex
>
> Along with the following modules for testing:
>
> https://github.com/elixir-unicode/unicode/blob/main/test/support/unicode_validation_helpers.ex
>
> https://github.com/elixir-unicode/unicode/blob/main/test/unicode_validation_test.exs
>
> I think it's ideal functionality to have in the String module, and the
> implementation's "reasonable enough" until a native solution's available in
> OTP.
>
> Testing is my only uncertainty - How much is prudent and in what manner?
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 12:35:48 PM UTC-4 José Valim wrote:
>
>> Folks, I am following up on this, where did we land?
>>
>> The new implementation is roughly ~70LOC for UTF-8, so at first I don't
>> see an issue with adding it to Elixir. However, the Elixir version would be
>> UTF-8 only (part of the String module).
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 10:51:34 PM UTC+2 Kip wrote:
>>
>>> Cameron, I think this would be a useful addition to the Unicode library
>>> <https://github.com/elixir-unicode/unicode> I maintain. If that works
>>> for you, please open an issue there and we can collaborate.  I think it
>>> being part of the Erlang `:unicode` module makes good sense too as José
>>> says but that's a longer "sales" and implementation cycle.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 7:40:50 PM UTC+11 José Valim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>>
>>>> If the goal is to include this handling for UTF-16 and UTF-32, I
>>>> suggest proposing this to Erlang/OTP as new functions in the "unicode"
>>>> module. Otherwise, Elixir only has facilities to deal with UTF-8. You could
>>>> propose such a feature in their issues tracker.
>>>>
>>>> Also note that "rolling your own" or "depending on packages" is usually
>>>> not enough reasons for adding features to Elixir. Otherwise, one could
>>>> easily argue Decimal and Jason would be more important additions to the
>>>> language. :) We do describe which features we would consider part of the
>>>> language here: https://elixir-lang.org/development.html
>>>>
>>>> Other than that, awesome job on the library and benchmarks. :)
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:03 AM Kip <kipc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Your implementation is definitely fast and memory efficient so I
>>>>> retract my implementation comments. Now that I've run the benchmarking
>>>>> script and tested out a few different approaches leveraging the std lib I
>>>>> understand better why you've taken the approach you have. Nice work.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC+11 Kip wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cameron, I think this is a useful proposal.  Elixir has means to
>>>>>> check validity (String.valid?/1) and a mechanism to split valid and 
>>>>>> invalid
>>>>>> code points (String.chunk/2 with the :valid trait). But there isn't, to 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> knowledge, a means to coerce validity.  A couple of thoughts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Since Elixir strings are, by definition, UTF8, I don't know that
>>>>>> special handling of UTF16 and UTF32 code points makes much sense - 
>>>>>> although
>>>>>> I accept this may be more Unicode compliant.
>>>>>> 2. What would the function be called? Since we have String.valid?/1
>>>>>> maybe String.validate/2 with an option `replace_invalid: utf8_string`. 
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> default `:replace_invalid` could be U+FFFD or it could be `nil`.
>>>>>> If the default is `nil` then there could also be a `String.validate!/2`
>>>>>> that raises if there is no `:replace_invalid` option.
>>>>>> 3. I think the implementation could leverage the code of
>>>>>> `String.chunk/2` which uses `String.next_codepoint/1`. That would 
>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>> implementation and be more consistent in code style.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 12:24:28 PM UTC+11 cameron...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, neither Elixir nor Erlang have a built in
>>>>>>> function for replacing invalid sequences in Unicode. There's a suggested
>>>>>>> method on this page
>>>>>>> <https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode15.0.0/UnicodeStandard-15.0.pdf#page=153>
>>>>>>> of the Unicode standard for handling this. Several other languages (
>>>>>>> Go <https://pkg.go.dev/bytes#ToValidUTF8>, Python
>>>>>>> <https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#bytes.decode>, C#
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/dotnet/docs/issues/13547>, etc) now follow this
>>>>>>> spec.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Invalid Unicode's encountered frequently enough that I think it's
>>>>>>> worth incorporating a solution into Elixir itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Present alternatives to handling invalid unicode (and json by
>>>>>>> extension <https://github.com/michalmuskala/jason/issues/174>) are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Crashing (not ideal in many cases)
>>>>>>>    - Roll your own (lot of overhead for accidental complexity)
>>>>>>>    - Depend on a package (+1 package towards dependency hell)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is my college try
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/Moosieus/UniRecover/tree/main>, but I'm certain
>>>>>>> there's a performant and far cleaner solution to be had in pure Elixir. 
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> not, perhaps this is a request for OTP.
>>>>>>>
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