I feel like I just wrote you a vague response - something I try to avoid. 
If you have a specific question about how to build or structure something 
in Elm, don't hesitate to ask.

On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 12:19:21 PM UTC-4, Oliver Searle-Barnes 
wrote:
>
> I've been using Elm for about 4 weeks now and having generally been loving 
> it. An area that I'm really having trouble with though is architecture. The 
> basic TEA is a fantastic foundation but the guidelines are really very 
> limited with regards to requirements of a typical SPA. 
>
> * Components - the best advice I've heard is to extract view/model/update 
> separately, as we've seen with elm-mdl this only goes so far though. In the 
> end every large application is going to end up with it's own framework 
> similar to elm-mdl so this seems to be an issue that needs to be resolved 
> somehow. 
> * Separation between view model(component state) and application model 
> (records from the server) - previously I've always had these two separated 
> which has meant that I can have multiple views updating the same server 
> records. 
> * Services - when I've had cross-cutting concerns I would typically manage 
> them in a service tier, e.g. I'm using websockets and want to update the 
> view optimistically. Managing the optimistic vs confirmed state isn't 
> something that I'd expect to have abstracted away from the view.
>
> I'm not really looking to resolve these issues here but I do feel like the 
> community is going in circles. Every day we hear the same questions like 
> "how does parent-child communication work?" but the advice that is given is 
> different depending who you ask (and always feels unresolved). 
>
> A general concern I have is that the impression that's given is that 
> abstraction is treated as something which should be avoided. This seems 
> unworkable for large SPAs. It gives the impression that perhaps no one in 
> the Elm community is really building large applications. 
>
>
> These are my concerns and issues, what I'm really looking for though is an 
> approach to move things forward. Given that there are existing frameworks 
> with well understood architectures I wonder if we should work on guides of 
> the form Elm for React users or Elm for Ember users and try to translate 
> the concepts from those frameworks into practical solutions within Elm. I 
> think this would help clarify the advice and perhaps uncover areas where we 
> need to give some more thought.
>

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