Thanks OvermindDL1, that's very helpful. I now understand it's down to the 
lack of two-way binding. Makes sense.
Wouldn't it be useful to use a change of id attribute as a change of key?


On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 6:11:15 PM UTC+1, OvermindDL1 wrote:
>
> The ticked checkbox is because the user ticked it, it is some of the 
> implicit DOM state.  When the view changed to remove a checkbox but it 
> still had another one after, since they were not keyed it just did a 'diff' 
> between states.  The vdom has no information on any implicit state in the 
> actual DOM, in fact it does not access the actual DOM at all except to 
> apply patches, thus when it saw from its point of view that the checkbox 
> label had its name changed but nothing else different about it then it sent 
> a patch to change the text and that is all.  By changing the 'key' of it 
> then it knows that it is an entire tree change and will not even attempt a 
> patch but will instead rather re-generate the entire tree.
>
> Basically if a tree were to be regenerated just because some text changed 
> than that would make a virtual-dom extremely slow, its whole point is only 
> to generate a set of differences between two virtual-doms and apply those 
> differences to the real dom without ever reading anything from the real dom 
> (as that is very slow).
>
> It would indeed be preferable for checked-state to be controlled 
> exclusively via the model and view, however only an event is sent for those 
> changes and there is no way for the vdom to update its internal information 
> otherwise, and registering an event everywhere, even bubbled events, would 
> again make the vdom very slow and force the user to have to handle a lot of 
> extra cases (imagine checked state, text values, even focus and all being 
> controlled like this).
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:01:57 AM UTC-6, Max Froumentin wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Today I raised https://github.com/elm-lang/virtual-dom/issues/37
>> Given there's no consensus on whether it's a bug, I'm bringing the 
>> discussion here.
>>
>> The reason why I think it's a bug is that the second time the view 
>> function runs it generates a ticked checkbox, although nowhere in the view 
>> function is there any indication that a ticked checkbox should be generated.
>>
>> The alternative view is that the checkbox that's been clicked on has only 
>> been mutated with new data. That's why it remains ticked. You need to use 
>> Html.Keyed to tell elm that it is an entirely new checkbox.
>>
>> I must say I'm not convinced why the view function should generate Html 
>> that depends on the previous state of the model.
>>
>> Thanks for any insight.
>>
>>

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